From owner-cvs-all Mon Mar 12 17:40:24 2001 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1DA37B718; Mon, 12 Mar 2001 17:40:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 1B69B6A90D; Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:10:03 +1030 (CST) Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:10:03 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Robert Watson Cc: Warner Losh , Poul-Henning Kamp , cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: Core's function (was: The Project and onward [was: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c]) Message-ID: <20010313121002.F59348@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200103130020.f2D0KmI41107@harmony.village.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from rwatson@FreeBSD.org on Mon, Mar 12, 2001 at 08:03:56PM -0500 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Monday, 12 March 2001 at 20:03:56 -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > > On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Warner Losh wrote: > >> In message <52176.984399203@critter> Poul-Henning Kamp writes: >>> Of course, one could *hope* that core would spend time on such >>> issues, but hey, I'm not holding my breath... >> >> Core's charter doesn't include this. When we went through the big >> bruhaha to get the new bylaws, it was fairly widely represented as a >> dispute resolution system and committer approval body only. Maybe it >> should do more than that, but that's what most people said core was as >> recent as last October. > > That was my understanding also. The large majority of technical comments > and commits that I make are done with my "committer" hat on, and not my > "core" hat. No need to identify which hat is worn when making inane "me > too" comments :-). > > I'm not sure I like the idea of an architectural board per se, because I > think that architectural discussions can work fine with our current > forums. It took me longer than most to agree to this viewpoint, but I do now. Yes, it's a good idea to have an architectural board, but why should it be less than the committers as a whole? That's my understanding of why we have -core: let the committers fight it out, and as long as they finally come to a conclusion about the colour of the bikeshed, there is no need for -core to be involved. I think that -committers are, on the whole, sensible enough to recognize who the leader are in a specific area. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message