From owner-cvs-all Fri Feb 13 15:30:43 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA03035 for cvs-all-outgoing; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:30:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [195.8.129.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02148; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:27:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost.cybercity.dk [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.8.7/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA03665; Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:21:37 +0100 (CET) To: Mike Smith cc: Julian Elischer , Paul Traina , core@FreeBSD.ORG, junichi@jp.freebsd.org, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wfd block major number reassignment from 24 to 1 In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:19:21 PST." <199802132319.PAA05082@dingo.cdrom.com> Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:21:37 +0100 Message-ID: <3663.887412097@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk In message <199802132319.PAA05082@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes: >> I belive that persistence in DEVFS is a BAD thing, but I'm appearantly >> pretty alone on -core with this view... > >Have you ever wanted to change permissions on an entry in /dev? yes. In which case I always add it to /etc/rc.local so I'm sure it will be there on the next reboot. I also generally make it a wildcard thing so I do it for all the disks/ttys or whatever I want to do it to. >If not, then your stance is understandable. But as soon as you accept >that there may be more than one "right" set of permissions for >something, you accept that persistence is required. Yes I have, and no I do not accept that. If I decide that disks should be "642 foo.mumble" on my machine, I should be able to express that such that when I add more disks it will DTRT. Permissions in /dev is a policy issue, and should be handled as such: ie, from a root-controlled config file. I belive persistence in devfs (as in /dev) is a very bad thing. -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." "Drink MONO-tonic, it goes down but it will NEVER come back up!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message