From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 9 22:41:39 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91FF7283; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 22:41:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from adrian.chadd@gmail.com) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAF78FC15; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 22:41:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id u54so1205162wey.13 for ; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 14:41:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=4AY1AaOWI4TjY4Xev449N7z6nK/8lxOP194a1Hng84E=; b=iPk30KuGsmO6RQTCZ6NhBvN9Cj1pNOo4yu0RIFhAtBHF5xoOp4yGoi+OVbgPj1ysY0 wqtIg26mpH65vYgHgSVCsUnkuI96sSntbXybmY0rY2/URhL77bRvWtKVKqbC0whLPC7q HPvCY1fKgKeur5DWp6PXsYYhZrGPcm0c6YgzJEgqmFtUIv31OuEclmDeQS0rVkNtBxkW vUmXQ7lqhYQadgNksS3F2TNpnVR5c2hXVX8Hb2AyhzEibfHYM4RsBMjKjFV0//lcOec/ qcRmrJkwGAMLRSXskauekM68PFUNLgXYrOBZic67s3lSry8UKE1jsJbAJ3udggQYQp4d 9HrQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.78.1 with SMTP id x1mr7787991wiw.17.1355092897980; Sun, 09 Dec 2012 14:41:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: adrian.chadd@gmail.com Received: by 10.217.57.9 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:41:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201212092215.PAA17770@lariat.net> References: <201212090318.UAA11257@lariat.net> <50C4A341.9070903@FreeBSD.org> <201212092031.NAA17017@lariat.net> <201212092215.PAA17770@lariat.net> Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2012 14:41:37 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3Due2Q01gWja7KfwXCMrh-B_2OI Message-ID: Subject: Re: Will we get a RELEASE-9.1 for Christmas? From: Adrian Chadd To: Brett Glass Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Dimitry Andric X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Dec 2012 22:41:39 -0000 Hi, It's definitely not targeted at you. The 9.1 stuff is an intersection of: * personal issues with some of the people involved (ie, "real life got to them and that took precedence"); * the security incident; * the freebsd cluster shuffling and reshuffling that was going on at the same time >From my understanding there's enough hardware. Definitely not a hardware specific problem. The foundation funds and provides plenty of hardware, as well as yahoo and a few other companies. I don't think we're short of i386/amd64 hardware. It's honestly just an intersection of bad timing. Since it's a volunteer project, it's on the timelines of the volunteers in question. I think people are right though when they comment on the lack of communication from the project about this. See the list of things above to understand why communication may not have been terribly great. :-) I'll amend my "stuff that will help" list: * Donate to the freebsd foundation, along with opening discussions to them about how your organisation uses / relies upon freebsd; * Volunteer to join the release engineering / package building teams, and actively donate manpower to the project. Adrian