From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 24 18:19:51 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F090A16A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:19:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769C543FF5 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:19:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.9p2/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAP2Jnlg028813 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:19:49 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 19:19:31 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20031124.191931.67791612.imp@bsdimp.com> To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <16322.47726.903593.393976@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <16322.46449.554372.358751@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20031124.190904.127666948.imp@bsdimp.com> <16322.47726.903593.393976@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:19:52 -0000 In message: <16322.47726.903593.393976@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Andrew Gallatin writes: : : M. Warner Losh writes: : > In message: <16322.46449.554372.358751@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> : > Andrew Gallatin writes: : > : I'll bet a larger percentage of our users build ports than need nss or : > : ldap. : > : > I'll bet a larger percentage of the people are ignoring this thread : > than reading it since it has been so devoid of concrete numbers. : : Aside from $SUBJECT.. I'm just saying that most of the developers I'm talking to on IRC say this tread is insane, has no content and they are blowing it off because of that. A concrete, real benchmark will go a long way towards changing that. Until then, you are as good as kill filed. I don't say this to be mean or nasty. I'm just saying that people are sick to death of the arguing without any real facts. Warner