From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 25 11:31:36 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 249E71065681; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:31:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aragon@phat.za.net) Received: from mail.geek.sh (decoder.geek.sh [196.36.198.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B41928FC16; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:31:35 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aragon@phat.za.net) Received: by mail.geek.sh (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 7952B24D22; Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:31:33 +0200 (SAST) Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 13:31:33 +0200 From: Aragon Gouveia To: Jeremy Chadwick Message-ID: <20081025113133.GA84724@phat.za.net> References: <200810230627.46478.freebsd-stable@dino.sk> <209111CB-326D-4758-80B2-2505CAE9BCDF@netconsonance.com> <20081025003750.GA42077@phat.za.net> <20081025012148.GA48297@icarus.home.lan> <20081025014218.GA47549@phat.za.net> <20081025080945.GA55413@icarus.home.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081025080945.GA55413@icarus.home.lan> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.10-RELEASE-p2 i386 Cc: freebsd-stable Stable , John Baldwin Subject: Re: 6.4 RC1 locks up solid on first reboot X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:31:36 -0000 | By Jeremy Chadwick | [ 2008-10-25 10:09 +0200 ] > Okay, so then the issue is probably with the bootloader in some bizarre > way. John might have some ideas, but I have none (outside of my skill > set). > > Also, it might help if you could explain "enough key input" and "too > many keypresses". These are a little too vague. Did a bit of experimenting now. My system uses the boot0 boot manager. I can't reproduce the keypress freeze issue in any part of boot0, 1, or 2 stages. It only becomes a problem when loader takes over. Once loader takes over the system can freeze at any point if too many keypresses are made at any point while loader is in control - at the prompt, while it's busy pulling the kernel/modules off the disk, any time. The actual amount of too many keypresses is seemingly random. It can freeze with just one keypress, or after the upteenth keypress - my record is about 25 keypresses without freezing. :) Not a fun game if you're trying to use the loader prompt. At one point while I was testing now the display output went translucent red when the system froze after some keypresses. Strange huh? I didn't know transparency was supported in text mode. :) > Anything is possible. Can you please rebuild your system, and the > bootstraps (and don't forget to install them; bsdlabel -B ), > without messing with optimisation flags? Will do. > I'm still having trouble understanding what you're talking about or > why you're doing this. > > I *think* what you're trying to say is something like: "when my machine > boots up, I don't like waiting 10 seconds at the Beastie/loader menu, so > I hit Enter to skip the counterdown". Please clarify. :-) You are correct. I usually whack enter 3 times or so straight after BIOS post to eliminate boot0's, boot2's, and loader's timeouts. Regards, Aragon