From owner-freebsd-scsi Sat Jun 8 14:01:55 1996 Return-Path: owner-freebsd-scsi Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) id OAA18193 for freebsd-scsi-outgoing; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 14:01:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from MindBender.HeadCandy.com (root@[199.238.225.168]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA18147; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 14:01:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.HeadCandy.com (michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1]) by MindBender.HeadCandy.com (8.7.5/8.6.9) with SMTP id NAA19410; Sat, 8 Jun 1996 13:53:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199606082053.NAA19410@MindBender.HeadCandy.com> X-Authentication-Warning: MindBender.HeadCandy.com: Host michaelv@localhost.HeadCandy.com [127.0.0.1] didn't use HELO protocol To: Wilko Bulte cc: michael@memra.com, hdalog@zipnet.net, dror@hopf.dnai.com, freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ERROR info:747d9d asc:11,0 Unrecovered read error, other SCSI issues In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 08 Jun 96 16:27:02 +0200. <199606081427.QAA04029@yedi.iaf.nl> Date: Sat, 08 Jun 1996 13:52:04 -0700 From: "Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com" Sender: owner-freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk >> >Maybe Quantum's engineering does something wierd internally and doesn't >> >test their drives on a real world activity mix that includes UNIX. >As Michael L. VanLoon -- HeadCandy.com wrote... >> That would be hard to believe, considering that Quantum drives ship in >> some HP Workstations, among others... >And in lots of Digital Equipment machines... >In general: I have yet to hear of a manufacturer that never has 'junk' >drive types every now and then. That has been my experience also, following these lists and Usenet. I think I have heard of bad runs of drives from every major manufacturer. Especially the ones that try to push the limits, like newer 7200rpm drives. The only difference, I think, is that I have heard of Seagate drives failing more than the rest. Personally, I have owned several Quantums. I like them -- they do the job for a good price, and the performance is good. I have had two Quantums fail. One (a ProDrive 425S) was old and had put in several years of good service and hard life running Unix. It didn't surprise me a bit when it finally went. The other was newer (LPS 540S), but was a few months out of warranty. I called them up and they replaced it for free anyway. I have other Quantum drives (a couple TrailBlazer 850S's) that haven't shown any problems. I also have a couple Western Digital IDE drives (a 1.6GB and a 540MB; all my other drives are SCSI) which work very well, and actually seem to run less hot than the other bigger drives. I have two HP drives (both 1GB) which run hot, but which have been quite reliable and quick so far. I also have an old Seagate (500MB) with an Apple decal on it, that probes as a SCSI-1 drive, but still performs pretty well for an older drive, and hasn't shown a single problem so far. So, in Quantum's case, specifically, I wouldn't say that all their drives way more reliable, but I wouldn't say they are way less, either. And, it doesn't bring your data back, but they were very helpful and courteous when I did need to get a drive replaced. Anyone who says "Don't buy X's drives -- they all suck!", I pretty much tune out right away. If a manufacturer truly made only drives that always failed a few months after you bought them, they quite simply wouldn't stay in business. People who can give specific examples and models I take more seriously. Is this thread beat to death, yet? ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. VanLoon michaelv@HeadCandy.com --< Free your mind and your machine -- NetBSD free un*x >-- NetBSD working ports: 386+PC, Mac 68k, Amiga, Atari 68k, HP300, Sun3, Sun4/4c/4m, DEC MIPS, DEC Alpha, PC532, VAX, MVME68k, arm32... NetBSD ports in progress: PICA, others... Roll your own Internet access -- Seattle People's Internet cooperative. If you're in the Seattle area, ask me how. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------