From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 27 18:16:24 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F281065675 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:16:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cswiger@mac.com) Received: from asmtpout029.mac.com (asmtpout029.mac.com [17.148.16.104]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C99B58FC0A for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:16:24 +0000 (UTC) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Received: from cswiger1.apple.com ([17.209.4.71]) by asmtp029.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-23.01 (7.0.4.23.0) 64bit (built Aug 10 2011)) with ESMTPSA id <0LTQ0027RLEZF800@asmtp029.mac.com> for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:16:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.4.6813,1.0.211,0.0.0000 definitions=2011-10-27_06:2011-10-27, 2011-10-27, 1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1012030000 definitions=main-1110270197 From: Chuck Swiger In-reply-to: <20111027133905.34315b83@scorpio> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 11:16:11 -0700 Message-id: <3A137268-A771-432A-814C-E7B8CA491F69@mac.com> References: <15996.1319704110@tristatelogic.com> <1319712142.89939.YahooMailNeo@web36507.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <20111027172944.75a96733.freebsd@edvax.de> <4EA989C2.6060909@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20111027133905.34315b83@scorpio> To: FreeBSD X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) Subject: Re: Fast personal printing _without_ CUPS X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:16:25 -0000 On Oct 27, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Jerry wrote: > Printing under MS Windows is a breeze. The *nix community has never > gotten printing up to that lever. Of course Unix has had functional printing; the issue is mostly dumb printers which can't accept PostScript or at least PCL, and need an OS-specific driver to rasterize for the device. A secondary problem is X11's imaging model with the dichotomy between on-screen imaging and print imaging. For examples of Unix printing done right, look back to NEXTSTEP twenty years ago, using Display Postscript and Pantone colorimetry to provide true WYSIWYG; also, Sun's NEWS and OpenWindows also had the DPS extension to X. Most of that technology is still around under MacOS X, although DPS has largely been replaced by a PDF imaging model instead. Regards, -- -Chuck