From owner-cvs-all Fri Feb 13 15:55:24 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA08173 for cvs-all-outgoing; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:55:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07659; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:52:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by alpo.whistle.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA04198; Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:47:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from UNKNOWN(), claiming to be "current1.whistle.com" via SMTP by alpo.whistle.com, id smtpd004193; Fri Feb 13 15:47:49 1998 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 15:44:00 -0800 (PST) From: Julian Elischer To: Poul-Henning Kamp cc: core@FreeBSD.ORG, committers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: wfd block major number reassignment from 24 to 1 In-Reply-To: <3663.887412097@critter.freebsd.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk having spent a long time thinking about this I must say that phk reflects my position on this exactly.. BTW who added 'core' to the CC? that's probably redundant. On Sat, 14 Feb 1998, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > In message <199802132319.PAA05082@dingo.cdrom.com>, Mike Smith writes: > >> I belive that persistence in DEVFS is a BAD thing, but I'm appearantly > >> pretty alone on -core with this view... > > > >Have you ever wanted to change permissions on an entry in /dev? > > yes. > > In which case I always add it to /etc/rc.local so I'm sure it will > be there on the next reboot. > > I also generally make it a wildcard thing so I do it for all the > disks/ttys or whatever I want to do it to. > > >If not, then your stance is understandable. But as soon as you accept > >that there may be more than one "right" set of permissions for > >something, you accept that persistence is required. > > Yes I have, and no I do not accept that. > > If I decide that disks should be "642 foo.mumble" on my machine, > I should be able to express that such that when I add more disks > it will DTRT. > > Permissions in /dev is a policy issue, and should be handled as > such: ie, from a root-controlled config file. > > I belive persistence in devfs (as in /dev) is a very bad thing. > > -- > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." > "Drink MONO-tonic, it goes down but it will NEVER come back up!" > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message