From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Apr 13 01:43:21 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F97E6D; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:43:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rpaulo@FreeBSD.org) Received: from felyko.com (felyko.com [IPv6:2607:f2f8:a528::3:1337:ca7]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF8918C0; Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:43:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [IPv6:2601:9:4d00:3c:b4f2:b05c:fbbb:d700] (unknown [IPv6:2601:9:4d00:3c:b4f2:b05c:fbbb:d700]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by felyko.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8FDEB3981E; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Subject: Re: ipfilter(4) needs maintainer From: Rui Paulo In-Reply-To: <20130411201805.GD76816@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:43:20 -0700 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <7D8ACD5C-821D-4505-82E4-02267A7BA4F8@FreeBSD.org> References: <20130411201805.GD76816@FreeBSD.org> To: Gleb Smirnoff X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, net@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2013 01:43:21 -0000 On 2013/04/11, at 13:18, Gleb Smirnoff wrote: > Lack of maintainer in a near future would lead to bitrot due to = changes > in other areas of network stack, kernel APIs, etc. This already = happens, > many changes during 10.0-CURRENT cycle were only compile tested wrt > ipfilter. If we fail to find maintainer, then a correct decision would = be > to remove ipfilter(4) from the base system before 10.0-RELEASE. This has been discussed in the past. Every time someone came up and said = "I'm still using ipfilter!" and the idea to remove it dies with it.=20 I've been saying we should remove it for 4 years now. Not only it's = outdated but it also doesn't not fit well in the FreeBSD roadmap. Then = there's the question of maintainability. We gave the author a commit bit = so that he could maintain it. That doesn't happen anymore and it sounds = like he has since moved away from FreeBSD. I cannot find any reason to = burden another FreeBSD developer with maintaining ipfilter. -- Rui Paulo