From owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Mar 10 08:30:45 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18C44106564A for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:30:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A03508FC15 for ; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:30:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (pD9E2E99E.dip.t-dialin.net [217.226.233.158]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30CD52E06D; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:14:07 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail.leidinger.net (webmail.leidinger.net [192.168.1.102]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE658ADA6D; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:14:03 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=Leidinger.net; s=outgoing-alex; t=1236672843; bh=6bsm+bhPBwmubKyK9PPyNsmge6VFxcRYD wfgsvuwtzU=; h=Message-ID:Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References: In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=KoPep0LhjI/vhhHWOc9JkwdvA7Dr6W9qBFMhewCNc8LCFJeZs69SoKRmjbboycvRt KJax9zK2zz31gPrrpBmB4JLPp2uShT5X+7wMRMh62/5H8pU82d155yGBonTASsrRJLe 2pmgU5pa3Fi4NYlVQ7OXLDxL6cTbRQFlODPzJHZgy5Free6T5ZWh33D9A2FD+FXrWiZ hRVCFp3AMf1BCHYm+nAutPSNNvSA79InEBoevHteBTEtHuadcDxqzMQDoXyY1xGbQ05 JFXITdz1Yw2v/nY3fvS+R0uK5SNM8+UDYhJlzFTyBPmur7cuoLRhVjM3MoVo14oIyC6 yTvueGqAg== Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.leidinger.net (8.14.3/8.13.8/Submit) id n2A8E2ob098935; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:14:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from pslux.cec.eu.int (pslux.cec.eu.int [158.169.9.14]) by webmail.leidinger.net (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:14:02 +0100 Message-ID: <20090310091402.13413h62tf9n9s20@webmail.leidinger.net> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:14:02 +0100 From: Alexander Leidinger To: rasz References: <49B28BE9.4070302@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <49B28BE9.4070302@gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3) / FreeBSD-8.0 X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-MailScanner-ID: 30CD52E06D.BD79C X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, ORDB-RBL, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.9, required 6, BAYES_00 -15.00, DKIM_SIGNED 0.00, DKIM_VERIFIED -0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd sound system X-BeenThere: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Multimedia discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2009 08:30:45 -0000 Quoting rasz (from Sat, 07 Mar 2009 14:59:53 +0000): > besides that, i have run into a couple of issues which concern alsa, =20 > particularly with two applications so far. > one was a linux binary (renoise) which complained about missing =20 > files/libs on first run, but got past that after i installed > the alsa libs port (it failed on something else after, but that's =20 > another story). > > the other program was rosegarden which i downloaded as source and =20 > tried to build following the included instructions, > however it does some checks to see if alsa (or what version) is =20 > installed. so after first fail, i commented out that part from the =20 > makefile to see what happens, which only produced a fail later on. > > so for the long run, my real question is this; would it be possible, =20 > and how easy is it, to have some kind of dummy alsa package =20 > installed? or is that a bad idea? it wouldn't need to be functional, There's an ALSA -> OSS wrapper from 4Front, but AFAIK it is not =20 maintained (and not in the ports collection, as nobody took the time =20 to add necessary stuff to our OSS implementation). > just present for any application that requires it to build or =20 > install, since eventually it seems that these apps can use jack in =20 > any case, which in turn would be using whatever is actually available. I think this would not be good, as an application would assume ALSA =20 works if it is present, and an user (specially those switching from =20 linux) may be very confused too, if it is present but does not work. > on another note, does anyone know how old or active the info on the =20 > following site is? http://wiki.freebsd.org/soundsystem There's not much activity. For MIDI everything is correct. For HDA, =20 there may be some changes needed (it has seen a lot of development =20 recently). For the rest it should at least be 99% correct. Bye, Alexander. --=20 =09 THE DAILY PLANET =09SUPERMAN SAVES DESSERT! =09Plans to "Eat it later" http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID =3D B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID =3D 72077137