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From: Jamie Oulman <jamie@techsquare.com>
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Subject: Re: Just lost one to Linux. Compaq server support.
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> 	Cool.  So, you can look forward to having your machines 
> compromised by li0n2 (or whatever), and having to scrub and 
> re-install every single machine on your network, because as part of 
> the rootkit they also installed a password sniffer, and used the 
> machine as a launching point for other break-in attempts.

	doing a redhat upgrade is about as fun as doing
	a win98 -> win2k upgrade. ie. dont even try. I 
	know alot of people still running 6.2 for this 
	very reason. that and redhat has yet to come 
	close to a release thats as stable as 6.2. i 
	think mainly because vendors are quick to release
	when the latest and greatest kernel/gnome/kde
        comes out. im thankfull the BSD's have diffrent 
	idea's on what should contitute a new release. 

	redhat like most everything else. can be secured. 
	if properly maintained and kept up to date. the 
	problem is most people who run redhat and linux 
	in general dont know what they have running. its
	amazing how many default installs there are out 
	there. is it the vendors fault for distributing
	insecure software? partly yes. but it is also 
	up to the admin to keep things current and patched. 
	 
	2c    
	-jamie	

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