From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 21 05:12:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: x11@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6D1106566B for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from gizmo.2hip.net (gizmo.2hip.net [64.74.207.195]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C798FC12 for ; Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:12:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) Received: from [192.168.1.156] (adsl-19-214-182.bna.bellsouth.net [68.19.214.182]) (authenticated bits=0) by gizmo.2hip.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n2L5BDl1093566 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 21 Mar 2009 01:11:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rnoland@FreeBSD.org) From: Robert Noland To: David Wolfskill In-Reply-To: <20090321045253.GF77783@albert.catwhisker.org> References: <20090321032623.GD77783@albert.catwhisker.org> <1237609745.1758.3.camel@balrog.2hip.net> <20090321045253.GF77783@albert.catwhisker.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha1"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="=-WviIF9cn+WNoSXO+8efH" Organization: FreeBSD Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 00:12:15 -0500 Message-Id: <1237612335.1758.12.camel@balrog.2hip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.24.5 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,RDNS_DYNAMIC autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on gizmo.2hip.net Cc: x11@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Anyone have an xorg.conf to share for an nVidia NV17 [GeForce4 440 Go] X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 05:12:50 -0000 --=-WviIF9cn+WNoSXO+8efH Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 21:52 -0700, David Wolfskill wrote: > On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 11:29:05PM -0500, Robert Noland wrote: > > ... > > So, looking at the log, at least some of your drivers are out of date > > and not built against the current server. Probably because they are > > either dead drivers, or not longer build. >=20 > Hmm... how might one know that a given driver is out of date? As long > as I can do so without loss of functionality, I'll happily reduce the > number of installed ports.... :-} >=20 > > Start by removing the cyrix, imstt and nsc drivers and see if configure > > will run then. >=20 > Aye; it did; thanks! >=20 > > With current ports, the nv driver should dtrt. FWIW, >=20 > I figured it would be adequate for my purposes.... >=20 > > the only video drivers that you probably need are nv and possibly vesa. >=20 > Right. The others would have been automagically installed from > installing the x11/xorg meta-port with minimal changes from the default > options. >=20 > I'm trying to be at least reasonable about keeping things up-to-date; > how might I take appropriate evasive action to reduce the probability of > a recurrence of this sort of thing? >=20 > Thanks again -- being stuck with a handful of vtys was crampiing my > style.... :-} So, I expect that what happenned was that those drivers were part of the meta port in the past and were installed. Since then, they have fallen (more) into disarray and been removed from the meta port. If you have an xorg.conf, then it only loads the requested driver and everything is fine. If you do -configure it tries to load up everything it can find and when the old drivers failed to load due to ABI breakage, it just bailed out. I'm not sure what is the best way to deal with that wrt the meta port. It is convenient to just install the meta port and have most cards supported, the drivers are generally small and build fairly quickly, but when they go stale... Basically, if it isn't ati/radeonhd or intel it isn't getting a tremendous amount of love right now... via has been superseded by openchrome which is getting active development. I haven't really kept up with nv, but nouveau is getting active development and may replace nv at some point. Most of the other drivers only get attention if something breaks and someone complains loudly... robert. > Peace, > david --=20 Robert Noland FreeBSD --=-WviIF9cn+WNoSXO+8efH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (FreeBSD) iEYEABECAAYFAknEdy8ACgkQM4TrQ4qfRONFzwCePlW88QJBzB3E4O4DF6npv+4h cB4AoIfH2OK8by3qzhYmPRGTwNv3/3oI =USBv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --=-WviIF9cn+WNoSXO+8efH--