From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 1 21:21:22 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9910516A420 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:21:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from speedfactory.net (mail6.speedfactory.net [66.23.216.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A809F43D55 for ; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:21:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from server.baldwin.cx (unverified [66.23.211.162]) by speedfactory.net (SurgeMail 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 2961988 for multiple; Thu, 01 Dec 2005 16:19:19 -0500 Received: from localhost (john@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id jB1LL6Uo092253; Thu, 1 Dec 2005 16:21:15 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 16:21:21 -0500 User-Agent: KMail/1.8.2 References: <20051201095426.GD17378@uk.tiscali.com> <438F2BFD.9030408@mac.com> <20051201202842.GP39831@over-yonder.net> In-Reply-To: <20051201202842.GP39831@over-yonder.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200512011621.24287.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.8 required=4.2 tests=ALL_TRUSTED autolearn=failed version=3.0.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.2 (2004-11-16) on server.baldwin.cx X-Server: High Performance Mail Server - http://surgemail.com r=1653887525 Cc: "Matthew D. Fuller" , Brian Candler Subject: Re: current@ and freebsd-current@ X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 21:21:22 -0000 On Thursday 01 December 2005 03:28 pm, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 11:59:41AM -0500 I heard the voice of > > Chuck Swiger, and lo! it spake thus: > > I've asked postmaster@ about this, and there are mechanisms in place > > which are supposed to merge the two names to avoid duplicate > > postings, but some messages seem to get missed. > > Interestingly enough, there seems to be a pattern to it. All the > places where somebody starts duplicating happen when somebody (a) is > using KMail, and (b) replies to a message to 'current@' (never to > freebsd-current@), it will set the To: to freebsd-current@, and leave > current@ in the CC list. It doesn't happen every time those > conditions are met, especially if current@ is sandwiched somewhere > among other headers. Rather odd; maybe some "list reply" sort of > feature in KMail? jhb seems to get bitten by it with some regularity. Yes, KMail parses the List-XXX headers that mailman sticks in messages to figure out that when you reply to a list message it should use the list post address for To:. Unfortunately, there is now way to turn this "feature" off and when I submitted a bug report about it to KDE asking for the feature to be toggleable the KMail developers basically told me to piss off. Instead of a simple on/off toggle, they supposedly are going to add (though I haven't seen it yet) a know so that for any given mailing list you can configure alias addresses, but that type of thing doesn't scale well when you have 20+ mailing lists and have to duplicate it on N different machines. :( If only Mail.app would do actual trees of message threads. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve" = http://www.FreeBSD.org