From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Aug 20 16:58:42 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 321293C2F84 for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:58:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from nightmare.dreamchaser.org (ns.dreamchaser.org [66.109.141.57]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "dreamchaser.org", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BXW7j264Vz4fgg for ; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:58:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Received: from breakaway.dreamchaser.org (breakaway [192.168.151.122]) by nightmare.dreamchaser.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 07KGwQwb042283; Thu, 20 Aug 2020 10:58:27 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from freebsd@dreamchaser.org) Reply-To: freebsd@dreamchaser.org Subject: Re: Correct way to disconnect/eject an USB hard disk ? To: Polytropon , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: Manish Jain , Christoph Kukulies References: <20200819142952.3686baa8.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200820044352.678a588e.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200820050222.e54467e3.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Gary Aitken Message-ID: Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 10:56:56 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200820050222.e54467e3.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.2 (nightmare.dreamchaser.org [192.168.151.101]); Thu, 20 Aug 2020 10:58:27 -0600 (MDT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4BXW7j264Vz4fgg X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@dreamchaser.org designates 66.109.141.57 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@dreamchaser.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.49 / 15.00]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd@dreamchaser.org]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[hotmail.com,kukulies.org]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dreamchaser.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.31)[-0.311]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.88)[-0.877]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; ASN(0.00)[asn:21947, ipnet:66.109.128.0/19, country:US] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 16:58:42 -0000 Thanks all for the explanations and ideas On 8/19/20 9:02 PM, Polytropon wrote: > On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 04:43:52 +0200, Polytropon wrote: >> The idea of "just give it a few seconds after you physically >> remove the USB stick" [...] > > ... is of course nonsense - you wait _before_ physically > removing the USB stick. It doesn't make sense to wait > after disconnecting. :-) Ah, that must be my problem ;-) But it does make sense -- uh... let me think... what do I do now? :-) But on a mostly unrelated note, I have a ritual I've been performing for nigh on ten years: Before plugging in a USB stick on one particular box, I stick a finger over the USB stick connection, touch the box/case and run my finger down to the front panel USB connector and wiggle my fingertip over the connector. Then plug in the stick. If I don't do that, 9 times out of 10 the machine will freeze up and I have to manually power off, reboot, and fsck. It's obviously(?) static related, although I've never felt/heard any static anywhere near and it only happens on this one box. I just adapted and learned to live with it. Gary