From owner-freebsd-i18n Fri May 18 12:45:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from nagual.pp.ru (pobrecita.freebsd.ru [194.87.13.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1868B37B422 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 12:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ache@nagual.pp.ru) Received: (from ache@localhost) by nagual.pp.ru (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4IJjX181087 for i18n@freebsd.org; Fri, 18 May 2001 23:45:34 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from ache) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 23:45:32 +0400 From: "Andrey A. Chernov" To: i18n@freebsd.org Subject: [eggert@twinsun.com: Re: Is codeset locale part standartized by OpenGroup?] Message-ID: <20010518234531.A81015@nagual.pp.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ----- Forwarded message from Paul Eggert ----- Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:39:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Eggert Subject: Re: Is codeset locale part standartized by OpenGroup? To: ache@nagual.pp.ru CC: austin-group-l@opengroup.org, Bruno Haible > Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 19:51:51 +0400 > From: "Andrey A. Chernov" > But the question remains: is OpenGroup have it own codeset registry or > rely on some 3rd party registry? Is OpenGroup have some reccommendations > in that area, f.e. IANA or X11? What about locales listed in > http://www.opengroup.org/publications/catalog/lo.htm > - they apparently use X11 names, not maintained anymore, as you say. I think it's too late in this round to fix this problem in the standard, but it may not be too late to add a comment about it in the rationale. I just submitted an aardvark about this, and proposed to add the following text to the rationale for iconv_open: Not only are codesets implementation-defined, their names are too. SVR4-derived implementations use X11 names in some cases (e.g., "ISO8859-1") and proprietary names in others (e.g., "iso88591"). However, the X11 name registry is no longer maintained. GNU-derived implementations use IANA-registered names, and among those, the preferred MIME name if available (e.g., "ISO-8859-1"); see . Application developers should consult the implementation's documentation to determine the supported codesets and their naming scheme. This proposed text steals shamelessly from Bruno Haible's earlier email summarizing the current situation. (Thanks, Bruno!) ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Andrey A. Chernov http://ache.pp.ru/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message