From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 19:18:07 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F248106566B for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:18:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from john@kozubik.com) Received: from kozubik.com (kozubik.com [216.218.240.130]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 187418FC12 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:18:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from kozubik.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kozubik.com (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id q0IJI50L060652; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:18:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@kozubik.com) Received: from localhost (john@localhost) by kozubik.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) with ESMTP id q0IJI0Ve060649; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:18:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@kozubik.com) Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 11:18:00 -0800 (PST) From: John Kozubik To: Robert Watson In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <4F1543C2.8050404@FreeBSD.org> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org, Andriy Gapon Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 19:18:07 -0000 On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, Robert Watson wrote: > > I think John gets a lot of what he wants if we just fix our release cycle. > Agreed. I still think that having two "production" releases running simultaneously really hurts focus and the end product, but that's not going to keep us from using FreeBSD. Not getting a decent five years out of a major release and not getting a minor release every 4-6 months *will* keep us from using FreeBSD.