From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jun 5 13:42:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [64.211.219.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 840B537B403 for ; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr01.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA23521; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:42:00 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr01.primenet.com(206.165.6.201) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAeHaG5T; Tue Jun 5 13:41:58 2001 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr01.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id NAA29684; Tue, 5 Jun 2001 13:44:19 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200106052044.NAA29684@usr01.primenet.com> Subject: Re: The desktop apathy To: kkonstan@duth.gr (Konstantinos Konstantinidis) Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 20:43:58 +0000 (GMT) Cc: tlambert@primenet.com (Terry Lambert), rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in (Rahul Siddharthan), brett@lariat.org (Brett Glass), ugly-daemon@home.com (Chris Moline), chat@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3B1D2D8D.80442E1B@duth.gr> from "Konstantinos Konstantinidis" at Jun 05, 2001 10:05:49 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > Would you rather pay $5000 per seat or whatever it was for crap like > > > CDE? That's where we'd be if the GPL'd alternatives didn't exist. > > > > No, we'd be paying for Visix LookingGlass, and we'd all be much > > happier. > > > > Whatever happened to that? A quick google search yielded no relevant > results... It's mentioned in a lot of places on the net... I guess google sucks. 8-). It was taken over by Vertex Developement; see the presentation at: http://www.vertexdev.com/~jeff/LinuxLG/index.html Here is a review of the version that ships with Caldera Linux: http://ncc1701e.net/LDP/LDP/LG/issue30/nelson.html Here is an article by a Visix co-founder: http://www.sdmagazine.com/articles/1996/9603/9603n/9603n.htm Here is one of their former support engineers resumes: http://www.badgertronics.com/writings/resume-full.html The author of FTEditSys claims it's not available any longer: http://www.linuxutilities.org/Utilities/FTEditSys.html Caldera Linux used to ship with them at one time (being forced to use "moolit" was one of the reasons that some of the original people left Novell to start Caldera; I used to work with most of them, at one time or another, during my 4 years at Novell): http://www.caldera.com/support/docs/1.1/base/addendum/english/title.html Here are other sundry references: http://www.prescient.com/articles/Usability/Usability.html http://zeus.uwindsor.ca/public/upgrade_62.html http://wint.decsy.ru/du/RTR/COPYR_0S.HTM http://www.non.com/news.answers/cde-cose-faq.html http://www.landfield.com/faqs/x-faq/part3/section-15.html There is also a site, http://www.lglass.com/, but it appears to be dead right now. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message