From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 9 11:45:53 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84DA4FBA; Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qa0-x22d.google.com (mail-qa0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22d]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 308191AEF; Wed, 9 Apr 2014 11:45:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id cm18so2263746qab.18 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 04:45:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ip4VdI9mjkjypcQtK8vz5Fyhfm0H/ES+BhkDFBagbeE=; b=fNZ2MLpp+4nWyjIdcJh4m8Q7co5zHGNfWc0oGVOCKsRXcJxyEoNRL809/N94A8+vnv Yo8c2oHoawJJWVpycMxKdy9X/Sffh9vGifD1VTVmDDeDHhjjuRRTbcr4aBf+bEX6Otao objTubvsGq+zp9JAvn9SoP4QeYmbdO/ILhrtw2sF9TVmFEFvgDwgJdmAy8PFmBmBwZvc 0gg1EHClhkRNuXtIYhkWzK11GGCyHggkRNQ5V7os2WHx3ZgbrfmUiJdZU6AXKvr82hgS fEFtKcydotGtaVTNrDha6YCX/VTvjuZ2D9TOxWvASTJ58jq0YwnDcbJ5utgP5/ubDWc1 G2/g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.104.1 with SMTP id m1mr11683862qao.51.1397043952282; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 04:45:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.229.126.133 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Apr 2014 04:45:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <534512CB.5030109@marino.st> References: <5344005C.4030503@aldan.algebra.com> <20140408185537.69d5cd6e@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <53442E10.6060907@aldan.algebra.com> <20140409002033.5a2d9850@kalimero.tijl.coosemans.org> <534512CB.5030109@marino.st> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2014 13:45:52 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: FreeBSD ports which are currently scheduled for deletion From: Big Lebowski To: marino@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.17 Cc: "Mikhail T." , Tijl Coosemans , freebsd-ports X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 09 Apr 2014 11:45:53 -0000 On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 11:28 AM, John Marino wrote: > On 4/9/2014 11:22, Big Lebowski wrote: > > While we are not having any way to measure ports usage (or am I wrong > > here?), we're still building packages from ports, and I would hope that > we > > could get some statistics of pkg usage for certain packages from official > > repositories, could we? This is not exactly direct relationship for the > > port being used but I would think that such knowledge is better than > none. > > How do you distinguish packages downloaded by mirrors versus those > downloaded by pkg? At DragonFly, we'd love to know how to do this > because it always comes up when the "it's kill to kill i386 platform" > discussion comes up. Every time somebody brings up a statistic about > how many times packages are download (or what % packages downloaded are > i386) then the very next questions is: are those legitimate downloads. > I dont know, but the numbers of package downloads by mirrors should be the same for all packages, since mirrors should (in theory) fetch entire repository, effectively 'nullyfying' their own downloads from the statistics, and what would stand out, should be actual downloads per package. I have already said this is by no means a perfect solution, but having some data, even if it might be biased more or less seems to be a better thing, than having no data at all. > > > > As a sidenote, perhaps its the time to introduce some sort of > package/ports > > usage data gathering to FreeBSD just like Debian/Ubuntu are doing it, > that > > would be anonymous and optional? > > Maybe pkg adds some unique variable to the download URL. If not, it > could, and statistics could be tracked that way by analyzing the web > server logs. > That seems like a good idea, somethign easily configurable (a bool value) in pkg config, what could also be enabled by the bsd installer. Is anyone capable of such changes and reading this thread could give us an idea how hard would be to implement that and if he/they seem to like the idea? > > John > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-ports@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ports > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-ports-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >