From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 30 01:49:22 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [8.8.178.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F21DCDAB for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 01:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@my.gd) Received: from mail-la0-x22f.google.com (mail-la0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c03::22f]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78A5172F for ; Sat, 30 Mar 2013 01:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f47.google.com with SMTP id fj20so881677lab.20 for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:49:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=HnefhDP9kwdSTVZyhC4IEYFbrhvmco3WSqcinKL9v8A=; b=nduA7xPekDW+rLMqjWe/gV2C5GB1/OKm4IW+sG2B395IIqkYeiMn8DsX7PDZ+G1z4q ilOE/U1ClCTzNJiuqhy4K6wuO/FCKpb4OK5CUoatYiBQdX1LyC+mbotOJ8v0MLHzeZut Dlpp29tOJmZh4UrS36Fu/dK83rgWQoIHzYsCOpNRY0uK8pGDiBaBV/sfZF0p72C8WDOf lp7LW10uaTDkGo9Qm1CFlimcFyWe6EPmm618WQKxBLbpMKA0nIyCizypyV2plC1sm1Yo xFE3bHuYbFDDndR8GwJvLMaqrWRpm67CijSLWpZDluaNA0ZfuqKS6j0YsMoOSWrQKnNh zTRQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.138.198 with SMTP id qs6mr2192071lbb.68.1364608160463; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:49:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.112.144.104 with HTTP; Fri, 29 Mar 2013 18:49:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51563C91.9090006@ShaneWare.Biz> References: <6B60EA1E-0277-499A-917A-AA2B3030F0FD@mac.com> <150B553F-AED1-45D7-86C9-EB482ED267EC@mac.com> <51563C91.9090006@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 02:49:20 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: external hdd From: Damien Fleuriot To: Shane Ambler X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmMuWK36CrjnEf6Ec/2WGXxRlFjkY+J0WyZ7Gb204P6VRK+9gxwSsmwDZC3u0iucbgoEJ4y Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 Cc: Laszlo Danielisz , FreeBSD - X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2013 01:49:23 -0000 On 30 March 2013 02:14, Shane Ambler wrote: > On 30/03/2013 09:43, Chuck Swiger wrote: > >> Hi-- >> >> On Mar 29, 2013, at 3:52 PM, Damien Fleuriot wrote: >> >>> On 29 March 2013 18:06, Chuck Swiger wrote: >>> >>>> Time Machine is only supported on top of journaled HFS+; I'm not >>>> sure how fusefs-hfs is doing on FreeBSD, though. Or you could >>>> setup multiple partitions and have an exFAT partition for data >>>> interchange between other OSes. >>>> >>> >>> Now, unless I got things wrong, I believe you're mistaken. >>> >> >> The key word above which folks might not be paying enough attention >> towards-- particularly in the context of a backup solution-- is >> "supported". >> >> I, for instance, have a Time Machine server running on top of >>> 10.0-CURRENT with ZFS. >>> http://www.area536.com/**projects/ironclad-time-** >>> machine-backups-on-freebsd/ >>> >> >> >>> Indeed. As one might note on that page: >> >> defaults write com.apple.systempreferences TMShowUnsupportedNetworkVolume >> **s 1 >> ^^^^^^^^^^^ >> > > The real point to notice is that the mentioned zfs storage is accessed > over the network not over a local usb/sata cable. The freebsd server > reads/writes to zfs the remote mac only talks afp over tcp seeing it as > another network fileserver. > > While 10.5 included a zfs read-only kext apple removed it in 10.6 or 10.7. > > There is an oss version of zfs started that appears to have been revived - > maczfs.com. > There is also a commercial package for osx zfs - zevo. > I'm not vouching for either of these just mentioning that they exist. > > Aye, I know that. My point is, perhaps that'd be his best bet then ? Attach the USB device to the FreeBSD box, export it over afp. I know that's not really ideal, that's a given. However, this is a solution that allows him to use the disk on fbsd, and still be able to export TM backups.