From owner-freebsd-ports Tue Aug 28 9:39:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from ipcard.iptcom.net (ipcard.iptcom.net [212.9.224.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9601337B403; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 09:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from max@vega.com) Received: from vega.vega.com (root@dialup3-29.iptelecom.net.ua [212.9.226.157]) by ipcard.iptcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA91347; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:39:20 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from max@vega.com) Received: (from max@localhost) by vega.vega.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) id f7SGdJk57229; Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:39:19 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) From: Maxim Sobolev Message-Id: <200108281639.f7SGdJk57229@vega.vega.com> Subject: Re: RFC: on the merits of post-build testing To: mi@aldan.algebra.com (Mikhail Teterin) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2001 19:39:19 +0300 (EEST) Cc: sobomax@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Mikhail Teterin" at Aug 28, 2001 11:53:10 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL5] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > On 28 Aug, Maxim Sobolev wrote: > > > That are a very interesting arguments, but the real point is that in > > 99.9% of cases running tests wouldn't cause anything but useless waste > > of CPU time. From the remainder 0.09% is associated with people adding > > unsupported optimisation levels into CFLAGS (they deserve punishment > > for that anyway) and 0.01% with people running strange hardware (i.e. > > Alphas and faulty x86). > > Well, Maxim's opposition is the only one I knew about before. So well, > in fact, I addressed his point first in my original posting: No you did not, at least completely. The main point is not waste of CPU cycles per se, but pointless waste of CPU cycles *and* pointless waste of developers' time. -Maxim > >> Why some dislike it: > >> > >> * it is a waste of the CPU time > >> > >> well, so is checking for the result of the malloc() :-) So is not > >> compiling your kernel with -fomit-frame-pointer. I think, that > >> majority of those concerned about the CPU time will use the > >> precompiled packages. Testing time is, usually, only a fraction of > >> the build time. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message