From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 21 23:59:46 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD5F16A4CE; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 23:59:46 +0000 (GMT) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.173]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3631543D4C; Mon, 21 Jun 2004 23:59:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from max@love2party.net) Received: from [212.227.126.155] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BcYhV-0007Ba-00; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 01:59:45 +0200 Received: from [84.128.135.165] (helo=donor.laier.local) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 3.35 #1) id 1BcYhU-0001g1-00; Tue, 22 Jun 2004 01:59:45 +0200 From: Max Laier To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2004 01:56:56 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.6.2 References: <20040620134437.P94503@fw.reifenberger.com> <200406211639.22243.max@love2party.net> <20040621164657.GA2544@dragon.nuxi.com> In-Reply-To: <20040621164657.GA2544@dragon.nuxi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Boundary-02=_OX31AwrvXAUOMrb"; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <200406220157.02776.max@love2party.net> X-Provags-ID: kundenserver.de abuse@kundenserver.de auth:e28873fbe4dbe612ce62ab869898ff08 cc: Michael Reifenberger Subject: _ users [Was: startup error for pflogd] X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 23:59:46 -0000 --Boundary-02=_OX31AwrvXAUOMrb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline On Monday 21 June 2004 18:46, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 04:39:10PM +0200, Max Laier wrote: > > This might seem like OpenBSD/paranoia, but my opinion on it is: It's do= ne > > so why not port it over? It also helps to keep the diff down (which mea= ns > > less work). > > > > If there is no resistance against "yet another user", I will add _pflog= d. > > I would prefer just 'pflogd' until it is discussed if we want to follow > the _ way. Okay, let's talk about this then: Any strong optionions one way or the othe= r? I think this is a bikeshed. There is no technical argument (to my knowledge= )=20 that suggests either. My vote is for "_" to keep the diff down, bu= t=20 that is not an argument of course. Others have said that it: - helps to recognize system processes - helps to see "bad things" happening (1000 _pflogd is not a good sign) - resolves possible namespace problems I can't think of a propper contra, but maybe "It looks ugly" qualifies ;) T= ell=20 me if I overlook something. Thanks. =2D-=20 Best regards, | mlaier@freebsd.org Max Laier | ICQ #67774661 http://pf4freebsd.love2party.net/ | mlaier@EFnet --Boundary-02=_OX31AwrvXAUOMrb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQBA13XOXyyEoT62BG0RAvSKAJ4ltPLIQJsBcTEg22E5VJwOK+dybgCfYyBd 41QFqrR/H2SfQzQYrugg7UM= =O3YE -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Boundary-02=_OX31AwrvXAUOMrb--