From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 25 11:27:26 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B8D069A; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:27:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from relay.mailchannels.net (si-002-i152.relay.mailchannels.net [108.178.49.164]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F59B157F; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:27:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: _forwarded-from|107.201.34.133 Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (ip-10-227-128-69.us-west-2.compute.internal [10.227.128.69]) by relay.mailchannels.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 7A13810039B; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:27:17 +0000 (UTC) X-Sender-Id: _forwarded-from|107.201.34.133 Received: from mail-24.name-services.com (mail-24.name-services.com [10.248.1.153]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA) by 0.0.0.0:2500 (trex/5.1.2); Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:27:18 GMT X-MC-Relay: Forwarding X-MailChannels-SenderId: _forwarded-from%7C107.201.34.133 X-MailChannels-Auth-Id: demandmedia Received: from [10.0.10.1] (107-201-34-133.lightspeed.bcvloh.sbcglobal.net [107.201.34.133]) by mail-24.name-services.com with SMTP; Fri, 25 Apr 2014 04:27:10 -0700 Message-ID: <535A468D.7080006@a1poweruser.com> Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 07:27:09 -0400 From: Fbsd8 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: dteske@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FBSD jail versus VMWare? What services do YOU run in a jail? References: <53580129.5010909@ssimicro.com> <033901cf603f$55a1ffc0$00e5ff40$@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <033901cf603f$55a1ffc0$00e5ff40$@FreeBSD.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: 'FreeBSD Questions' , 'Boris' , 'Alejandro Imass' X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:27:26 -0000 dteske@FreeBSD.org wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Boris [mailto:borisbsd@gmail.com] >> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2014 9:02 PM >> To: Alejandro Imass >> Cc: FreeBSD Questions >> Subject: Re: FBSD jail versus VMWare? What services do YOU run in a jail? >> >> Hi Alejandro, >> >> Can you move a 'live' jail from server to server? >> I have never tried but some people like the vMotion option from VMware >> and for having tried it, it's quite impressive in action. >> > > http://www.7he.at/freebsd/vps/ > http://www.7he.at/freebsd/vps/about-vps.html > > NB: See first bullet point on the about page. Wow vps is highly experimental and at it's core, it uses "VIMAGE" which is also highly experimental and unsupported. It's hot server swap ability is only achievable because of vps integration into FreeBSD kernel making it require a unique vps version for each release of FreeBSD. To me, I see vps as a wrapper around "VIMAGE" intended to simplify the difficult network configuration setup associated with using "VIMAGE" in a jail environment. Other FreeBSD services need to be made "VIMAGE" aware, like firewalls IPF, PF which dump if run on the host with "VIMAGE" compiled into the kernel and ipfw which does not dump but has very limited functionality. In this thread I read about references to ezjail. It's based on the hosts rc.d boot scripts which in release 10.0 is being depreciated in favor of jail(8). As the number of running jails increase the difficultly of managing them also increases. ezjail has no provisions to address this problem. qjail on the other hand is designed from the ground floor to simplify the administration of large scale jail environments [1 to 2000+ jails]. It's built around jail(8) and has option to build vnet/vimage jails. You should review both qjail and ezjail and choose based on which one best meets your unique usage requirements.