From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 24 18:36:59 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 939C316A4CE for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:36:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.93.134.19]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9922D43F85 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:36:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (obrien@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.9) with ESMTP id hAP2ajvX070565; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:36:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id hAP2ajqx070564; Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:36:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 18:36:44 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "M. Warner Losh" Message-ID: <20031125023644.GA70472@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <16322.46449.554372.358751@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20031124.190904.127666948.imp@bsdimp.com> <16322.47726.903593.393976@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20031124.191931.67791612.imp@bsdimp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20031124.191931.67791612.imp@bsdimp.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD Group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 40% slowdown with dynamic /bin/sh X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 02:36:59 -0000 On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 07:19:31PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: > In message: <16322.47726.903593.393976@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> > Andrew Gallatin writes: > : > : M. Warner Losh writes: > : > In message: <16322.46449.554372.358751@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> > : > Andrew Gallatin writes: > : > : I'll bet a larger percentage of our users build ports than need nss or > : > : ldap. > : > > : > I'll bet a larger percentage of the people are ignoring this thread > : > than reading it since it has been so devoid of concrete numbers. > : > : Aside from $SUBJECT.. > > I'm just saying that most of the developers I'm talking to on IRC say > this tread is insane, has no content and they are blowing it off > because of that. A concrete, real benchmark will go a long way > towards changing that. Until then, you are as good as kill filed. What qualifies as a "concrete, real benchmark"? I take it you don't think Drew's qualifies. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org)