From owner-freebsd-chat Sun Jun 3 12: 7:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from riker.skynet.be (riker.skynet.be [195.238.3.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65EC437B401 for ; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 12:07:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brad.knowles@skynet.be) Received: from [194.78.241.123] ([194.78.241.123]) by riker.skynet.be (8.11.2/8.11.2/Skynet-OUT-2.11) with ESMTP id f53J6u623962; Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:06:57 +0200 (MET DST) (envelope-from ) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: bs663385@pop.skynet.be Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: <200106011856.MAA22566@lariat.org> <200106011856.MAA22566@lariat.org> <4.3.2.7.2.20010602105353.04a1bd00@localhost> Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 20:52:10 +0200 To: Rich Morin , chat@FreeBSD.ORG From: Brad Knowles Subject: Re: Where's BSD in this picture? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 8:55 AM -0700 6/3/01, Rich Morin wrote: > An interesting, if ill-defined conjecture. Do you meant that the > Mac OS X software on most received machines is never activated or > that it isn't activated as often as the Mac OS 9 software? Since MacOS X has only very recently started shipping on every new machine (but not turned on by default), it's almost certain that he is not referring to MacOS X. > They also decided to ship a Developer Tools > CD with every boxed set of Mac OS X. This is pretty radical stuff. Don't expect this to last. As soon as MacOS X Server (OSXS) 2.0 is shipping, I would expect the developer tools to disappear from MacOS X itself. They really do want to restrict this stuff to just developers and very early adopters, and everyone else can damn well pay the $1000 it will cost, if they really want this stuff. Face it, that's just the kind of crappy attitude that Apple has. >>OS X has a ways to go yet before the average user >>will want to run it. > > We have it running on a couple of machines. It seems to be stable, > capable, and well-thought-out. I hate to say it, but I'm with Brett on this. No support for Lucent/Agere WaveLAN/Orinoco cards (even though they are supported in MacOS 9 as "AirPort PC Cards", and the Apple AirPort card is actually just a slightly modified Lucent/Agere WaveLAN/Orinoco card with the external antenna removed and a replacement fitting to attach to the built-in antenna in AirPort-compatible computers. Limited support for true Unix filesystems (still works best with Mac HFS and HFS+). The Finder clearly still has a long ways to go. There's still a lot of work that needs to be done on the Dock, and some solution needs to be found for the Control Strip. There's more, but I think this is enough. -- Brad Knowles, /* efdtt.c Author: Charles M. Hannum */ /* Represented as 1045 digit prime number by Phil Carmody */ /* Prime as DNS cname chain by Roy Arends and Walter Belgers */ /* */ /* Usage is: cat title-key scrambled.vob | efdtt >clear.vob */ /* where title-key = "153 2 8 105 225" or other similar 5-byte key */ dig decss.friet.org|perl -ne'if(/^x/){s/[x.]//g;print pack(H124,$_)}' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message