From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Jan 7 19:55:32 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id TAA10760 for chat-outgoing; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:55:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id TAA10755 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:55:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.2/8.7.3) id OAA13306; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:24:55 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199701080354.OAA13306@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Lignux - RMS article (pointer fyi) In-Reply-To: <199701070931.KAA05415@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from Christoph Kukulies at "Jan 7, 97 10:31:17 am" To: kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:24:54 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, chat@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-chat@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Christoph Kukulies stands accused of saying: > > I got the pointer from Linux Journal from a colleague. > I'm tempted to write them a reply to this because they > also discredit the BSD camp as 'being busy infighting'... A reply would be a good idea, but be careful with it. > Regarding the article titled 'The Politics of Freedom' in the Oct. 96 > issue of LJ I would like to mention that the BSD 'crowd' as you put it > isn't infighting at all. This so called 'BSD crowd' is writing code as > well and are improving their product in a much more uniform way than the > different Linux vendors do. ... mention that the so-called 'BSD crowd' ... This 'crowd' is writing ... their product in a far more uniform fashion ... > Linux has been participating to a great extent from that fact in the past. ... has benefitted to a great ... > (only to mention the BSD based IP networking in Linux). Wrong. Don't mention that. > As a member of the FreeBSD mailing lists I can tell you that > Linus Thorvalds himself is a member of these mailing lists and speaks up > there from time to time. He's not; he just gets cc'd by most Linux weenies when they get out of their depth. Don't mention that either. 8) > And as a side note, it would have fit you better - rather than > miscrediting the 'BSD crowd' - if you had lost a word on > the BSD Copyright which is a lot more free than the GPL > (virus, as it is also called sometimes). While the GPL > enforces everyone to supply source when distributing his > software with GNU software - Sometimes I doubt if this diction > is obeyed in every case with all Linux distributions that > come from all these different vendors - the BSD Copyright > isn't that restrictive at all. It proliferates commercial use > much more than the GPL does. ... rather than discrediting ... if you had spared a word ... which is arguably freer than ... (General Public Virus, ...) ... GPL requires everyone ... distributing their ... if this dictate ... It encourages commercial use ... > Why not broadening the scope of your Journal to other > free Unices rather than taking this hostile position against > anything which is not Linux like one could get the impression > from said article? "Perhaps you could consider broadening the scope of your worthy Journal to other free Unix-like operating systems, rather than taking such a hostile stance against anything that is not clearly Linux, as in the abovementioned article and others in that issue." > I will post a copy of that article later if anyone is interested in > cross reading/augmenting my reply to the magazine. Hopefully the above proof isn't too harsh 8) > --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de btw. hope you got your Apollo going; still trying to find OS media for mine 8( -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[