From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Jan 8 14:00:12 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA06230 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 14:00:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from hydrogen.nike.efn.org (d182-89.uoregon.edu [128.223.182.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA06081 for ; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:59:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by hydrogen.nike.efn.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id NAA08229; Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:58:44 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <19980108135843.12118@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 13:58:43 -0800 From: John-Mark Gurney To: Terry Lambert Cc: daniel_sobral@voga.com.br, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make_device_driver.sh References: <19980108113407.02264@hydrogen.nike.efn.org> <199801082127.OAA14634@usr06.primenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 In-Reply-To: <199801082127.OAA14634@usr06.primenet.com>; from Terry Lambert on Thu, Jan 08, 1998 at 09:27:45PM +0000 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert scribbled this message on Jan 8: > > > Is there any chance I can convince you to do seperate open/close calls > > > for each instance of an open or a close? > > > > > > PHK wanted this last year, but was shouted down because of the impact > > > it would have. If you are about to cause the same magnitude impact > > > in the same area... it seems like a logical time to bring this up again. > > > > I personally like that idea too, but the problem is that the changes > > that I'm making won't effect that part (cdev/bdev structs) of the system.. > > this only handles how devices are "attached", but the resources they > > provide (cdev/bdev/tty) are something different... > > I was thinking more in the sense that the change is going to dictate > that every device driver change to rev it to work with the new code. > > If there is going to be an acceptable reason to rev all of the device > code, then the not-quite acceptable reasons should shoe-horn in... the > old "in for a penny, in for a pound" theory. yeh... but the only problem is all the extra work that has to go into it (which I will have to do)... plus, the more you change, the more likely it's going to break.. :) > At least contact PHK about it... 8-). will do... -- John-Mark Gurney Modem/FAX: +1 541 683 6954 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 Live in Peace, destroy Micro$oft, support free software, run FreeBSD