From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 15 06:49:14 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E37250DFA for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 06:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48KLSn0xNZz3N4l for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 06:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=SmR4Nos09LBOaYYNx84+hHGp0Gn8eYxMKDZBe8LtHg4=; b=kZq3otCkVUvf+NID25k/Kz72oJ vu1yHS5o7ypoGDx1mvTlUiv+gTIkAwQWzwFZucxSNlHCH5dabUWQP4I9nlEpRTkOcUF524pdCR8hE EbibsfNitxaFOpGTc3kKi8CJ0SydBZfmVcjhU+JRBHBjbNmp082WNoQuc/ZkEd4RJoCI=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1j2rGJ-0000zD-R4 for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:49:11 +0700 Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 13:49:11 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Technological advantages over Linux Message-ID: <20200215064911.GF1482@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20200214121620.GA80657@admin.sibptus.ru> <20200214195430.25365f87@moonstudio> <7371554e-82a3-a7aa-b764-ae2627e241d3@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200214203134.17f6d4bd@moonstudio> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="hK8Uo4Yp55NZU70L" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200214203134.17f6d4bd@moonstudio> X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48KLSn0xNZz3N4l X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=kZq3otCk; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.44 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.34)[ip: (-9.89), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.94), asn: 20473(-1.80), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2020 06:49:14 -0000 --hK8Uo4Yp55NZU70L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ralf Mardorf via freebsd-questions wrote: >=20 > Another PITA on Linux machines are drop directories, overriding sane > configs, providing everything in one place. >=20 > IOW a user might rely on /etc/foo.conf , but an update despotic installs >=20 > /etc/foo.d/10-bar.conf >=20 > and >=20 > /etc/foo.d/20-bra.conf >=20 > overriding all the values chosen for bar and bra by the admin, stored > in /etc/foo.conf . >=20 > An update never ever would replace /etc/foo.conf . On Arch Linux it > would be stored as /etc/foo.conf.pacnew , almost all Linux distros > provide such a solution, but the admin is screwed, if an update does > add a file to /etc/foo.d/ . FreeBSD has taken this path too (looking at /etc/rc.conf.d/, /etc/cron.d and numerous others). FreeBSD's config merging solutions (mergemaster for src updates and freebsd-update calling sdiff) are pretty good IMHO. --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --hK8Uo4Yp55NZU70L Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJeR5RnAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0tZQH/jlJf/Mhvzknn7kAUlZO2OE1 mGITSWHnp27pCgyZJcgT5u3vWEjv3OIBYOU12HKVwiPV+iS/EME3bfwwGS1NpmkJ Z+NCNm56wgdXuBu0/rr74DkeQJBR55O2Xx3FlHTAWWXQpe/px4TNqH7Gm3MWPVvX Cg37VlzXgkHOWKhH38+aj0ExVDAD5eKMef/L9qJApWrFAc8/isT24dXK335KKPS6 noPugkC7oZ+sidbdakSLShVbFBA5ubf53AaJyCDFv7rLkC2ywvH1UyS8dHToeFy0 xdg0sKKLCfT+dfgwstrGwoUXcsKkRlyAXggHhd05bu3tiI3dEP4d+8o/Ow49XGM= =qQ4K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --hK8Uo4Yp55NZU70L--