From owner-freebsd-i18n Fri May 18 13:13:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from ms1.din.or.jp (ms1.din.or.jp [210.135.65.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2947D37B440; Fri, 18 May 2001 13:13:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tshiozak@din.or.jp) Received: from localhost (ppp10-072.din.or.jp [210.135.74.103]) by ms1.din.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id FAA07109; Sat, 19 May 2001 05:11:01 +0900 (JST) To: i18n@freebsd.org, audit@freebsd.org Cc: ache@nagual.pp.ru Cc: bsd-locale@hauN.org Subject: Re: CFR: ISO_* -> ISO-* locale renaming From: "T.SHIOZAKI" In-Reply-To: <20010518203702.B79058@nagual.pp.ru> References: <20010518203702.B79058@nagual.pp.ru> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b3 on Emacs 20.6 / Mule 4.1 (AOI) X-Prom-Mew: Prom-Mew 1.94 (procmail reader for Mew) X-My-Web-Root: http://www.imou.to/~AoiMoe/ X-Organization: The I18n/M17n project On Unix environments (IMOU), Japan. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010519050946U.tshiozak@din.or.jp> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 05:09:46 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 43 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Andrey A. Chernov" Subject: CFR: ISO_* -> ISO-* locale renaming Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 20:37:06 +0400 Message-ID: <20010518203702.B79058@nagual.pp.ru> > In the spirit of GNU locale (which use IANA charsets too) I plan to rename > our ISO_* locales to ISO-* ones, because ISO-* is preferred name according > to http://www.iana.org/assignments/character-sets and we have only one > locale name, it should be preferred. GNU locale use preferred MIME names > in the first place too. Your suggestion seems not so bad for me, because this policy is at least better than the current naming policy and there is a widely-used system that takes MIME names as the primary codeset names, that is Linux. Sure, the current locale naming policy of FreeBSD has several problems, e.g. "ja_JP.EUC" is absolutely wrong. # At this point, I'm more tolerant than Soda-san :-), # although I prefer "traditional" UNIX locale naming policy. I dare to say, - We should take an examination about the other policy at least once, that is the "traditional" UNIX locale naming policy taken by X, Tru64, HP-UX, etc. This convention is well used, although TOG no longer authorize nor maintain this name. On the other hand, Linux is the only system which uses MIME names as locale codeset now. - At least in Japan, nobody uses "ja_JP.EUC-JP". Instead, most Japanese people (even Linux users) use "ja_JP.eucJP" (and FreeBSD users still use ja_JP.EUC :-<). "ja_JP.eucJP" was determined by Japanese UNIX vendors' council and the effect of this past determination is still alive. We should prepare some aliases for such popular names, even if we take MIME names for locale codeset policy. - rename src/doc/ja_JP.eucJP once again? -- Takuya SHIOZAKI To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message