From owner-freebsd-ipfw@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Apr 29 21:59:01 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BBDE37B401 for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:59:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A3C943FBD for ; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:59:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crist.clark@attbi.com) Received: from blossom.cjclark.org (12-234-159-107.client.attbi.com[12.234.159.107]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with ESMTP id <2003043004585900100nkvqfe>; Wed, 30 Apr 2003 04:58:59 +0000 Received: from blossom.cjclark.org (localhost. [127.0.0.1]) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.3) with ESMTP id h3U4wvki023949; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:58:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crist.clark@attbi.com) Received: (from cjc@localhost) by blossom.cjclark.org (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) id h3U4wuj6023948; Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:58:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: blossom.cjclark.org: cjc set sender to crist.clark@attbi.com using -f Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 21:58:56 -0700 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Antoine Jacoutot Message-ID: <20030430045856.GA23926@blossom.cjclark.org> References: <200304271259.02025.ajacoutot@lphp.org> <200304290038.59573.ajacoutot@lphp.org> <20030429203842.GB22678@blossom.cjclark.org> <200304300100.42983.ajacoutot@lphp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200304300100.42983.ajacoutot@lphp.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i X-URL: http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ cc: freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ipfw dynamic rule timeout X-BeenThere: freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu List-Id: IPFW Technical Discussions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 04:59:01 -0000 On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 01:00:42AM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > On Tuesday 29 April 2003 22:38, Crist J. Clark wrote: > > Not sure where you're looking there, but when I BSD Google for "ipfw > > natd keep-state" the first link is, > > > > http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2002/freebsd-ipfw/20020804.freebsd-ipf > >w.html > > Thanks, I guess I put in the wrong keywords. > I read all of this and came to the conclusion that there was no solution to > this problem, at least I can't see one. > I guess I'll have to build my firewall with something else. > > But thanks. I think several of the articles point to the easiest solution: Don't use keep-state rules in conjunction with natd(8). Keep-state doesn't offer you anything more than using natd(8) with stateless rules for the vast majority of policies. -- Crist J. Clark | cjclark@alum.mit.edu | cjclark@jhu.edu http://people.freebsd.org/~cjc/ | cjc@freebsd.org