From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 11 09:14:21 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21636518; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:14:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.server1.bsdforen.de (bsdforen.de [82.193.243.81]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D361B1C36; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:14:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from AprilRyan.norad (iz-aix-213a.HS-Karlsruhe.DE [193.196.64.213]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.server1.bsdforen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E8FCE85FC4; Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:14:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5347B26D.4000508@bsdforen.de> Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 11:14:21 +0200 From: Dominic Fandrey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Engels , marino@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New port, what's next? References: <5346D5AF.5070905@bsdforen.de> <20140410182839.GB29301@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <5346E4F9.8030205@marino.st> <20140410211439.GB37706@e-new.0x20.net> In-Reply-To: <20140410211439.GB37706@e-new.0x20.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , Helmut Schneider , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 11 Apr 2014 09:14:21 -0000 On 10/04/2014 23:14, Lars Engels wrote: > On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 08:37:45PM +0200, John Marino wrote: >> On 4/10/2014 20:28, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: >>> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 07:32:31PM +0200, Dominic Fandrey wrote: >>>> >>>> On 10/04/2014 18:53, Helmut Schneider wrote: >>>>> I created a new port, Typo3-LTS. The tgz contains >>>>> >>>>> - Makefile >>>>> - distinfo >>>>> - pkg-plist >>>>> - pkg-descr >>>>> - a diff from www/typo3 >>>>> >>>>> The file has ~150kB so I assume it's to big for a PR. >>>> >>>> I assume the bulk of that is the pkg-plist. The largest pkg-plist >>>> in the ports tree is 4M. In my opinion huge plists should be dynamically >>>> generated, but in your case I'd just I'd just temp-host the file >>>> somewhere and file a PR with a link and a checksum. >>>> >>> Autoplist are harmful! and should be avoided as much as possible, I know python >>> and ruby has it but I m really not happy about that >>> >>> autoplist is dangerous because we have no way to control that what is package is >>> what the maintainer expect to be packaged! therefore we often end up with >>> unoticed problems >> >> Yes, but 6,000 - 20,000 line plists are unwieldy to say the least. >> And the danger can be mitigated by the maintainer by reviewing the >> internal temporary package list, ideally on multiple platforms. Also >> some plists are really hard to make manually if there are many options >> or if the plist morphs depending on the combination of options. >> >> yes, a safety net is removed with a generated plist but it has it's >> place. The maintainer just has to be vigilant. >> > > Can't we teach the ports system to handle pkg-plist.gz? That would be easy enough. The question is, can svn handle it? -- A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? A: Top-posting. Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?