From owner-cvs-all Mon Sep 2 8:12:28 2002 Delivered-To: cvs-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EB637B400; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 08:12:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C5843E3B; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 08:12:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id PAA22277; Mon, 2 Sep 2002 15:12:14 GMT Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2002 01:19:30 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: bde@gamplex.bde.org To: Peter Wemm Cc: "David O'Brien" , , Subject: Re: cvs commit: src Makefile src/usr.bin/make Makefile In-Reply-To: <20020902130609.1F5A52A893@canning.wemm.org> Message-ID: <20020903011057.W3883-100000@gamplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 2 Sep 2002, Peter Wemm wrote: > "David O'Brien" wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 31, 2002 at 12:18:40AM -0700, Peter Wemm wrote: > > [about -DBOOTSTRAPPING and newer warts] > > I thought we were going to impliment these warts with some form of > > __FreeBSD_version test -- so they don't impact source bases that don't > > need them, and more importantly so it is documented the time range they > > cover so we know when to remove them. > > Go for your life. Personally, I think that this sort of stuff should be > removed from critical bootstrap tools with extreme prejudice. I hope you mean including the __FreeBSD_version wart. > Next problem: make has got /bin/sh hardcoded by absolute path. This burns > us during an 4.x->5.x upgrade when /bin/sh is replaced before make has > finished running things and the freshly installed /bin/sh gets a SIGSYS on > eaccess(2). If that is solved, then we can avoid one reboot. I have used a hacked test/test.c with a function named eaccess() since this problem first bit me. I sometimes boot old kernels that don't have eaccess(2). Current kernels from 2 years ago still mostly work with current userlands apart from this. (Many sysctls and things like ps don't work. More interestingly, soft updates causes panics when a file is removed.) Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe cvs-all" in the body of the message