From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Dec 20 1:16:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7350237B419 for ; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 01:16:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish ([10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fBK9GbR27858; Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:16:37 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <018f01c18937$076439a0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: "Jamie Oulman" , "Brad Knowles" , References: <20011220035021.Y21508-100000@turtle.looksharp.net> Subject: Re: Just lost one to Linux. Compaq server support. Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2001 10:16:37 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brandon writes: > Although I must admit that Apple's OS X is pretty > tempting. Commercial software is often tempting; it's designed that way. > You are at the mercy of Apple ... That's all I need to know, and that's a deal-killer. Apple is much worse than Microsoft, and they have a monopoly on both hardware and software, so once you are locked in, you're doomed. But I am curious: If new Apple hardware runs Mac OS X, and OS X is based on FreeBSD, does that mean that you can install honest-to-goodness FreeBSD on an Apple hardware platform--with no trace of Apple software anywhere? Now _that_ might be interesting. > ... they've made the bulk of their codebase available ... When the OS fails inside their code, that isn't going to help. I've already had a small number of occasions with FreeBSD on which I couldn't figure out how something was actually working, and it was very nice to have all the source on the system so that I can actually find out for myself exactly what is going on. Without source, you have to depend on technical support, which not only costs money but is almost always incompetent to help (they often have no more information than you do, despite claims and implications to the contrary). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message