From owner-freebsd-current Fri Dec 11 22:26:00 1998 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA21660 for freebsd-current-outgoing; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:23:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (ppp-da.dialup.hilink.com.au [203.2.144.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA21650 for ; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 22:23:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00831; Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:56:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199812110856.AAA00831@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Kenjiro Cho cc: NAKAGAWA Yoshihisa , Nathan Dorfman , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PAO Integration? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 11 Dec 1998 16:55:32 +0900." <199812110755.QAA10039@hotaka.csl.sony.co.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1998 00:56:06 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Second, PAO enhanced irq-pool, dynamic irq-pool. So, pccardd get > > free-irq from kernel. > > >> This is an example of an unacceptable solution rerettably typical to > >> the PAO project - you folks are *too*narrowly*focussed* on your needs. > > It seems to me that the two parties don't communicate well. I'd have to agree with that; there are important points about direction that certainly haven't been communicated adequately. > The new-bus people talk from the view of the entire architecture, but > the focus of the PAO people is how to face the reality *NOW*. If that was all they were doing, that'd be ideal. The real problems arising at the moment however stem from the PAO team laying plans for long-term development without considering the directions that other groups are taking. > The two parties should respect differences in their positions. > I for one feel that both efforts are very important for laptop users. I think this is a sentiment that we all share; I'm not entirely sure how to go about improving the situation so that the PAO folks can concentrate on finding and fixing specific issues while remaining inside the ongoing development framework. We had hoped that making Tatsumi a committer would provide a means for the groups to come together, but this hasn't happened. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message