From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Oct 17 17:08:43 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DC8E16A41F for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:08:43 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sangwoos@gmail.com) Received: from qproxy.gmail.com (qproxy.gmail.com [72.14.204.200]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68B1243D49 for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:08:42 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from sangwoos@gmail.com) Received: by qproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id a39so827237qbd for ; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:08:41 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LCThHyi6QqgNd8G5RKq6iFeSGDLAu3Q9mQLXxX29r7Bxu46Q2UXdwOv003lw6KRLwHgwDJpgJFDyfC8mQQgF1DzFqHqRVsbRTtU3DO7kTcAXweAtcFdZhnHkhtFBk9MmXREUbdDnliwPdVEaYRfQ6Gj5L6gf0m0VualPkgAQbXQ= Received: by 10.65.123.17 with SMTP id a17mr2163907qbn; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.65.52.5 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:08:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <4cbd01f40510171008x42b4738bi@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:08:40 +0900 From: Sangwoo Shim To: Marc Fonvieille In-Reply-To: <20051017144920.GA597@gothic.blackend.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <4352D860.000002.03681@tide.yandex.ru> <20051017144920.GA597@gothic.blackend.org> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Oleg Petrov Subject: Re: nvi for serious hacking X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:08:43 -0000 2005/10/17, Marc Fonvieille : > On Mon, Oct 17, 2005 at 02:46:56AM +0400, Oleg Petrov wrote: > > Hello, FreeBSD people. > > > > First thing to mention is that I'm very experienced Emacs user. I was u= sing it > > for 4-5 years or so. But sometime ago i began to feel myself so uncomfo= rtable > > with it for some reasons: first, i use many different systems and emacs= isn't > > default application for FreeBSD or any other *BSD\Linux distribution. S= econd, > > remote machines aren't powerful enough to start Emacs fast. I tried man= y small > > Emacs clones like jed, joe, uemacs and several others i just can't reme= mber. > > But for different reasons i disliked all of them. Later I noticed defau= lt > > `nvi' editor, that has some nice features: it comes with FreeBSD by def= ault > > and according to documentation it has powerful editing mechanism. > > > > So, my question goes to all FreeBSD hackers who uses `nvi' as their gen= eral > > editor. Is it possible to do serious hacking with it? More accurate: > > > > I'd say "s/nvi/vim" (see http://www.vim.org/) if you want to really do > everything with your Vi. Actually the first thing that I do after minimal installing of new system i= s to install vim from the ports tree. (in fact, installing cvsup, of course := -) I remember once upon a time someone (david?) made a suggestion that nvi in our tree should be changed to vim-lite(or something.) I'm tend to agree with that.. (Although vim is GPL'd, nvi is in the src/contrib anyway..) Regards, Sangwoo Shim > > Marc > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org= " >