From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 7 20:15:10 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5691E378 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 20:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [198.74.231.69]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B73916D9 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 20:15:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [198.74.231.63]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAB1246B3C for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (doug@localhost.watson.org [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.7/8.14.7) with ESMTP id rB7KF92a063559 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by fledge.watson.org (8.14.7/8.14.7/Submit) with ESMTP id rB7KF9lV063555 for ; Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from doug@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) From: doug To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org Subject: How to find an Xorg that will do tty switch Message-ID: User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.3 (fledge.watson.org [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 07 Dec 2013 15:15:09 -0500 (EST) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: doug@safeport.com List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Dec 2013 20:15:10 -0000 I have two laptops (Dell and HP) and two work stations (Compaq and Gateway) none of which would allow switching ttys with FreeBSD 9.1 and Xorg 7.5.1. So I updated the Gateway to 9.2 and xorg 7.7. It works fine. Encouraged, I updated the HP laptop. Switching ttys on this machine results in a locked state where the system responds to nothing and the video degrades to noise similar to what you get running the wrong driver. Clearly there is more to getting this to work than is apparent at a surface level. I guess I have two questions. Is this something that is likely to ever be solved? And where is the problem: BIOS, O/S, Xorg?? With the systems I have now it is more important (to me) to go ahead and run with the latest versions, so my solution will be, "if it hurts, don't do it". Functionally I am no worse off than now, and I use these systems to preview updating production stuff. I am more than happy to test patches, supply information, or whatever, to advance a solution to this but what I am looking for here is just to understand what's going on. Doug