From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Mar 29 5:43:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B54315008 for ; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 05:43:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by phk.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA02786; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:43:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA20065; Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:43:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Atsushi Furuta Cc: hosokawa@ntc.keio.ac.jp, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Which LAN PCCARD for FreeBSD (no PAO!) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:26:27 +0900." <19990329222627V.furuta@sra.co.jp> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 1999 15:43:29 +0200 Message-ID: <20063.922715009@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Let me try to clear some of the smoke around here... Static configurations is something which belongs in the past where you didn't need to tweak your kernel config unless you had written a cheque to your DEC sales rep. Today most new technologies are dynamic by nature, CardBUS and PCCARD are just the most prominent cases, but many more are on the way. FreeBSD is moving away from static configurations, it should be particular obvious in this group why, and new-config doesn't buy us much if anything to that goal (as far as I know), so new-config must provide something else of significant value to stand a chance of integration. Any argument about "better handling of ISA" will not do, the ISA bus is finally showing signs of terminal age, and improving on the current level of config support for ISA will not be a major priority. I think the general modus operandi in regards to this can be summed up as "Rather than mess with^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Himprove config/newconfig, lets get rid of the bloddy thing alltogether" It is my understanding that new-bus has dynamic devices as a design principle, not something bolted on afterwards, that makes new-bus a very likely future key component of FreeBSD. The important thing here is that recognizing the speed at which we can code, we should look at the hardware as it will be in 2002 when we design/architect today, >that< is our target! -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message