From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Nov 3 19:11:25 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1880359A for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:11:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C1B8FC12 for ; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 19:11:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-8-72.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.8.72]) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B73A3CE1E; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:11:23 +0100 (CET) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id qA3JBMV2005683; Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:11:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:11:22 +0100 From: Polytropon To: ajtiM Subject: Re: before new version Message-Id: <20121103201122.bfcc917e.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <201211031225.12632.lumiwa@gmail.com> References: <201211031123.12664.lumiwa@gmail.com> <20121103181835.bb93d5d4.freebsd@edvax.de> <201211031225.12632.lumiwa@gmail.com> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 19:11:25 -0000 On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 12:25:12 -0500, ajtiM wrote: > On Saturday 03 November 2012 12:18:35 Polytropon wrote: > > On Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:23:12 -0500, ajtiM wrote: > > > Hi! > > > > > > Could someone explain, please why ports should be frozen before a new > > > version of FreeBSD came out? > > > > The idea is to make sure that RELEASE can be shipped with > > installation media (CD, DVD) for offline use which requires > > ports mostly to be tested and working in some specific state, > > and then the packages (those you can access on the installation > > media) are generated from them. It's handy for systems that > > do not have Internet access to install software off-line. > > > > > It happened all the time and after update (if you update or not) there > > > are so many ports for updating. In case for very long waiting for > > > version 9.1 will be thousands of them. > > > > That could probably be. Most users who have Internet access > > and run servers (and also home systems) will tend to update > > the OS beyond RELEASE and also do so with the ports collection, > > or alternatively also use pkg_add -r from the Latest/ directory > > instead of RELEASE (which _always_ contains the ports generated > > from the frozen ports tree). > > Thank you very much. > > BTW: packages are almost all the time outdated. The packages in the RELEASE directory and on the installation media meet the frozen ports tree (frozen _prior_ to the release date), so yes, they are a bit outdated, but they are considered "mostly stable and usable" when in use with what is distributed. On the server, both _those_ packages _and_ those in Latest/ (which are periodically built from the "advancing" ports tree after the release date) are often considered not _that_ current as if you would use CVS or SVN to obtain the "bleeding edge" latest ports tree and build from source. So yes, you could say what you said. :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...