From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Sep 17 20:43:40 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A178106564A; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:43:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DBC8FC08; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:43:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iadk27 with SMTP id k27so5832702iad.13 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:43:39 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=zV0tWtQo9Pa0lpU4FMcZUDN1F87BiloBDRLMX3oKPfQ=; b=MUPeIRAuPa+6e5htZe3+LVGcUIkY5u1sO19+NdwcDe5fPOaJBN+jcuPAKSYQBRpAb7 VV4D26n6Y1rYioxFoW8cQWJRXm6P+orK3PIa0Mc8lLFZ+ib7L8DWyG2NNPPGKMSg1AT4 8eL5GokWwdVVXJ9WQN/npgvz421x6tVv/kD3I= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.65.72 with SMTP id h8mr1316003ibi.47.1316292219413; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.35.194 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:43:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.231.35.194 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 13:43:39 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> References: <4E71F647.2050007@a1poweruser.com> <4E7453CB.1040908@freebsd.org> <4E74C9B7.2090901@a1poweruser.com> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 21:43:39 +0100 Message-ID: From: Chris Rees To: Fbsd8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.5 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Questions , Nathan Whitehorn Subject: Re: 9.0 bata2 & keymap X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 20:43:40 -0000 On 17 Sep 2011 17:25, "Fbsd8" wrote: > > Nathan Whitehorn wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 09/15/11 14:57, Fbsd8 wrote: >>>>> Out of the 9 USA maps only "us.iso.acc.kbd" worked somewhat. >>>>> The keyboard 9 key block above the arrow keys don't function. >>>>> Issuing the "man cmd_name" command doe's display the man page, >>>>> but the {Page up, Page down keys } don't work. >>>>> Also when using the "ee" edit command the {delete, Page up, Page down >>>>> keys } don't work. This does not happen in any of the previous releases. >>>>> >>>>> Further more, localization of the keyboard should not be forced on the >>>>> user during the install process. This BSDinstall option should be >>>>> disabled or removed. >>>> >>>> >>>> You can press "Cancel" there, which will cancel keymap selection and keep the default. The utility being invoked is just kbdmap(1), and any changes to it need to go there. >>>> -Nathan >>> >>> >>> > >> .. maybe name that button "skip" then? > >> > > > >The button is provided by kbdmap, as is the entire screen. We could add >an "installer" mode to kbdmap that names it skip instead of cancel, of >course. I'm traveling for another 2 weeks and won't have time to do >that, however. > >-Nathan > > > > Nathan > > Its good to be talking directly with the bsdinstall author. > > Changing the cancel button in the kbdmap command to skip, does not address the problem, which is the lack of knowledge of the standard bsdinstall user. I've been using Freebsd since 4.0 and never used the kbdmap command or for that matter even knew it existed. > Wait, are you suggesting that everyone on Earth can "make do" with the "standard" keyboard layout until they learn rc.conf syntax? I would strongly object if localisation of the keyboard were not "forced on" the user; we don't all use pc105-us, and the ability to use the keyboard properly early on is kinda helpful. Chris