From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 17:19:37 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF65F106566B for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (static-64-61-120-78.isp.broadviewnet.net [64.61.120.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7993A8FC13 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:19:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:19:09 -0500 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E417F@www.fcimail.org> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: desktop app/config Thread-Index: AcmStcdeFcTQ/Gd6TDmUXMVcJmDGfAAABQ7Q From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Sean Cavanaugh" , Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: desktop app/config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:19:38 -0000 That's sounds like what I'm looking for, however, when you say login = with no user or password- I'm not sure if I like that because our fileserver is = going to have to authenticate them at some point as will access to the = printers so somewhere somehow I need a login no? -----Original Message----- From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2000@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:17 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola; jerrymc@msu.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: desktop app/config > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500 > From: jnatola@familycareintl.org > To: jerrymc@msu.edu > CC: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: desktop app/config >=20 > I think we went off track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter is = a > FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's - I want to = setup > some "recycled" machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a = user to > grasp- I have mac users and pc users here- >=20 > But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing=20 I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline = install with either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE is = more MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either of = them to look like MSWindows. setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to = log in with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or = KDM (depending on which you want to use). Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per = your needs. -Sean > -----Original Message----- > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu]=20 > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:00 PM > To: Jean-Paul Natola > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: desktop app/config >=20 > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: >=20 > > Hi all, > >=20 > > I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the library > > running FreeBSD-=20 > >=20 > > What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what = config do > I > > need so that when the machine starts (power / boot) it will = automatically > > launch the desktop gui >=20 > The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the latest FreeBSD > (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE, update it to RELENG_7 or = RELENG_7_1 > so it has the latest patches. Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will = have > graphics. Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree. > Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice, = although > you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than > from ports. Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting > for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl > and maybe a couple of games for fun. >=20 > Then, just start using it. Learn to find things you need on the = system.=20 > and configure the network securely. There is lots of documentation in > the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online. The more you do it, the > more they make sense. >=20 > One thing to learn is using the vi(1) text editor. There are many > other editors, but for system management, vi is the omnipresent, ubiquitious > one. It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things > are happening. It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it > but it quickly becomes second nature. The FreeBSD man page is pretty > good on it. I have a web page that simplifies it a little at:=20 >=20 > http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/ >=20 > There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD. >=20 > "FreeBSD Unleashed" and "Absolute BSD" are a couple of them > The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and > is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good. > The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed. >=20 > At first, it will seem a little strange. Generally FreeBSD is command > oriented, not pointy/clicky oriented. That is a much more powerful way > to administer a system, but it takes more initial learning. >=20 > Ask questions. People on the list have already heard all the common > complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of times. > The usual response is "Thank God" or something similar. Anyway, they > are not interested in hearing whines again. But, if you have a real > question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this way' > and not just grousing, people on the list are usually very good about > giving answers. List people are very interested in helping people=20 > learn, but not interested in people complaining.=20 >=20 > If it is a bug, post a pr. If it is a feature request, remember that=20 > FreeBSD is created and maintained by volunteers - very smart ones - = but=20 > they have limits on time and resources so your request may take a very = > long time to get attention. You may well learn how to do it yourself=20 > and then submit it as an improvement before then. >=20 > Good luck and have fun. >=20 > ////jerry=20 >=20 > >=20 > > thanx > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"