From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Mar 21 11:56:07 2021 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97E5F571CFA for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 11:56:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mohammad@thelightbird.com) Received: from mail-lj1-x232.google.com (mail-lj1-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::232]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F3GLG0zTgz4nl3 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 11:56:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mohammad@thelightbird.com) Received: by mail-lj1-x232.google.com with SMTP id u10so17552797lju.7 for ; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 04:56:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=thelightbird-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=3Z46+X8GZ4EkwrQu5Q+Q5/rWPLqxcMyAQ2kvEmFwTqc=; b=kkNKBzLgTMrgurrCvOukmyOSlIztYUgV7O5rjFeVyWXWbbedUwfSGlsxoy3Wb8l5TN K67SMQ15hrxXbZy6JksL7AQXUtdNxaGvuvnJmGNGX3aLaLXBirETSWc18RuV78zOb1RS o8U04tTVcARJXV8RvI9mA2w8DZ9W1GBPRH7rtYEKrE6046EIpxxAJtxqi+RvcaKTXFvB M7F3wn6s3J367Ktk7wOYq/FSmqSwI74zT0zhAJsirvfc43i00wCpo3UdDge0mB15BTcE ifgfFJh0cPoRLgXY0sHOHLwRwxrO4//UiIFCoQMlhkqbQhsuHH//JCPOiiSj/szXXZLf XbFA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3Z46+X8GZ4EkwrQu5Q+Q5/rWPLqxcMyAQ2kvEmFwTqc=; b=V2539w1kEgQbM7vTb6/IRLUNTcB/p05zY+mRxvPSE5DaK6usULRG/yJRXKYhsPKlBl YNM0knb+JQeA8tDgE72g99Clrgn/oLaNGMgutsh2aeOnB6h5m0lxI1f0VdbDnBHKo/Th /4mvVj9gOW6id5vZzWh9daqK1H/SjbdtDRRR/WCJ7HLh8EkhAuVLDdgz8Jw41ShLAFOi LNCoxHGudyPTexusQUm9r9Sqq+hBqydw51a6Pmhhy1nPqNGrTXl36CsjdldSC8r27WSq 7BS04esFwY94NX27IfImBZa6RIkMN1hP5COHK2fP1OksVGNI2LdIkVnkGEb/iOgFZSsa gw7A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531L73QsjzrPtGcDwwXo+yiuvQXajnaxns+e1OCju+iRTg0t6OkF SGZ+Q1+q04WEvEEtJnvJnwPRGxL4jCQlqm440Awj8lcXyewtaiY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxJxuoaGmqXTLG0faizbC6vUcETjwcg8VYyBkKl/3+7+cpjJcp47PyUXzsATVFmZdAin3cF2vQHL47ey/rRpq0= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:b5b9:: with SMTP id f25mr6544518ljn.90.1616327764164; Sun, 21 Mar 2021 04:56:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20210319101040.00005c35@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: From: Mohammad Noureldin Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 12:55:53 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: OS to replace FreeBSD To: Jerry Cc: FreeBSD , Tomasz CEDRO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4F3GLG0zTgz4nl3 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=thelightbird-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=kkNKBzLg; dmarc=none; spf=fail (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mohammad@thelightbird.com does not designate 2a00:1450:4864:20::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mohammad@thelightbird.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.30 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_SPF_FAIL(1.00)[-all]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[thelightbird-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[thelightbird.com]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::232:from:127.0.2.255]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[thelightbird-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.996]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::232:from]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::232:from]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.34 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2021 11:56:07 -0000 Hi folks, IMO this is not the place to discuss other OS alternatives in place of FreeBSD/*BSD. Not that I have anything against any other OS, but there are other places (mailing lists and/or forums mainly related to those other OSes) which are more suitable to discuss that. Jerry, that does not mean in anyway that you are invited to "shut-up" or "just-to-fuck-off", I believe it has been explained by more than one person that this is not the attitude of this community. Moving forward, following the advice from Tomasz [1], I want to buy a HW on which we can investigate the problem and work on a solution (if possible/if any). Not just that, I want to volunteer to do the work if the fix will require some code changes (possibly in addition to the patches attached already to that PR), but for that I may need guidance and mentor-ship - Tomasz, is it possible that you can help in that respect ? Jerry, from what I've read in [2], the issue is related to 'C610/X99 series chipset' from 'Intel Corporation'. One of the attachments [3], specifically referred to 'Dell XPS 8930'. Is that the same machine on which you are having problems ? Looking forward to your reply [1] - https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2021-March/293464.html [2] - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=237666 [3] - https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/attachment.cgi?id=213055&action=edit -- Mohammad Noureldin Founder/Owner The Lightbird