From owner-freebsd-arch Mon Apr 10 19:59:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.yes.no (ns1.yes.no [195.204.136.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231B637B6CB for ; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eivind@bitbox.follo.net) Received: from bitbox.follo.net (bitbox.follo.net [195.204.143.218]) by ns1.yes.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA06830 for ; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:59:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from eivind@localhost) by bitbox.follo.net (8.8.8/8.8.6) id EAA06747 for freebsd-arch@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 04:59:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD6737B855; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA39811; Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 19:58:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: Terry Lambert Cc: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami , obrien@freebsd.org, Nate Williams , arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Import of tcsh into src/contrib/, replacing src/usr.bin/csh In-Reply-To: <200004110008.RAA29263@usr09.primenet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Terry Lambert wrote: > The problem is not that "csh" scripts from other systems won't run > on "tcsh", the problem is that if someone naievely writes code > thinking that the result will then run on some other box, when in > fact it will not, because that boxes "csh" has not be replaced > with "tcsh". So you wouldn't object to leaving csh as csh, importing tcsh and making it the default shell for root? The perception of new users is really a very big factor here - people who spend any time listening to newbie comments (as opposed to just talking about their 20-year old UNIX habits and how they're too old to change) will know how much we Lose here when they're used to a system (Linux) with a "friendly" default shell. Kris ---- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message