From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Aug 23 10:04:06 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0F5210656E9 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:04:06 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-hackers@m.gmane.org) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76A408FC0A for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:04:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvnq1-000081-6b for freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:04:05 +0200 Received: from lara.cc.fer.hr ([161.53.72.113]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:04:05 +0200 Received: from ivoras by lara.cc.fer.hr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:04:05 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org From: Ivan Voras Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 12:03:52 +0200 Lines: 20 Message-ID: References: <4E4D50CD.5080806@rawbw.com> <20110823012326.GA29658@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: lara.cc.fer.hr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD amd64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101102 Thunderbird/3.1.6 In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.1.2 Subject: Re: ZFS installs on HD with 4k physical blocks without any warning as on 512 block size device X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:04:06 -0000 On 23/08/2011 11:59, Aled Morris wrote: > On 23 August 2011 10:52, Ivan Voras wrote: > >> >> I agree but there are at least two things going for making the increase >> anyway: >> >> 1) 2 TB drives cost $80 >> 2) Where the space is really important, the person in charge usually knows >> it and can choose a non-default size like 512b fragments. >> > helpers like sysinstall should help with choosing the smaller blocks for > smaller drives (especially SSD) Only via hints and help text. Too much magic in the installer leads to awkward choices :) (e.g. first you need to distinguish between a VM with a small drive, a SSD small drive, or a SAN small volume... it quickly turns into an AI-class problem).