From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu May 1 07:10:57 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19FABE27 for ; Thu, 1 May 2014 07:10:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mx01.qsc.de (mx01.qsc.de [213.148.129.14]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF0AF169B for ; Thu, 1 May 2014 07:10:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from r56.edvax.de (port-92-195-108-40.dynamic.qsc.de [92.195.108.40]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx01.qsc.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E74C83CC42; Thu, 1 May 2014 09:10:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from r56.edvax.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by r56.edvax.de (8.14.5/8.14.5) with SMTP id s417Ara5002168; Thu, 1 May 2014 09:10:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Date: Thu, 1 May 2014 09:10:53 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Olivier Nicole Subject: Re: Respecting Privacy: How To Prevent Spam Message-Id: <20140501091053.bd00b5cc.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <20140430195924.GA1011@taco-shack.cow> <20140430211105.GA961@taco-shack.cow> Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list Reply-To: Polytropon List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 May 2014 07:10:57 -0000 On Thu, 1 May 2014 10:31:36 +0700, Olivier Nicole wrote: > I beg to disagree, to me, nothing is worth a mailing list, and > certainly not a forum: I see myself reading and replying to messages > in a list that I would not even open in a forum. Plus it all comes to > a single place/tool/interface while each forum has a different > behaviour. Additionally, the use of mail offers other advantages: 1. You're not tied to using a web browser. You can use your MUA of choice, be it a full-blown GUI client or something you access in a terminal. You can even use more than one. You can even have an external editor of choice. 2. You can remotely accesss text mode MUAs via SSH, which can be a big help when you're working in a limited environment. 3. You can store messages locally, it's easy. You can sort them according to your preferences. You do not rely on cryptic http URLs or have them disappear some time. You control your storage. 4. In addition to the local storage, you can search for content locally using your MUA, or _not_ using your MUA! You can process messages, held in mbox, MH, or Maildir formats, as you like. 5. Things are text based. You can use your skills to easily format text as you want it to be read by others. You don't need to learn "formatting macros" for the current "modern" choice of forum or board software, and hope that all web browsers render the result in the same way. 6. Web forums, like all web based things, may have bugs. There is no way the maintainer can entirely make sure that no hacker will ever get access to the user database. So the "But is it secure?" question can be asked on WWW topics, too. 7. Using a web browser limits your abilities, especially regarding the composition of a message (see #1, point 4). It's primarily about writing, but also about reading, as well as printing. It just doesn't work that good. 8. You can use the infrastructure described for more than one list. This unifies the interface and the processes. 9. Mail is bstter suited for "accidentally offline/online" work, as in "You're not logged in to the forum, the message you wrote has been lost." :-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...