From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 31 17:56:10 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7A3106568B for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:56:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from root.vagner@gmail.com) Received: from mail-bw0-f213.google.com (mail-bw0-f213.google.com [209.85.218.213]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 941C38FC1F for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:56:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bwz5 with SMTP id 5so4813675bwz.3 for ; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:received:date:from:to:cc :subject:message-id:references:mime-version:content-type :content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=S+TvTZm715W6OrZFycEo44kB+MJN/JW0VDEk97ZEsLs=; b=cFJ3q9Ug09gizDwarpeD9y0snlrd9fPyiQQJXufi+efsMlsWyxvAA5dqy4toZDbf5B Qqb2ipaPFEFaE2OOwT4ot46nyIgFaEdaYkdke1bBmTC7rVHY3HswMGndRlkBo2D5fmSP nM+sKHAXlmKYWRHNx/SBwrF9Qc8ygwzyTwDNE= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=JDnuEkB3WAiQR7KEsXiAE2kRwctUfRZ3TxOiJrICzG4GyS58Py2CvR4JuUJDCoqGJU CL0hQ08RlRo6EjZ+Nle4qVbZbDa4jijzkt7a+qxxu7+5o0WNXkBgrpkW1Q/vjR34KbI+ H/8EHb7rkN3bLGgCeBveyEbTuvYgjo8koVPCQ= Received: by 10.204.13.207 with SMTP id d15mr2303948bka.157.1257011766046; Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:56:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from root.vagner@gmail.com ([77.66.145.99]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h2sm3130606fkh.36.2009.10.31.10.56.04 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sat, 31 Oct 2009 10:56:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by root.vagner@gmail.com (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:55:58 +0300 Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:55:57 +0300 From: Vagner To: Igor Mozolevsky Message-ID: <20091031175557.GA8527@vagner.bsd.loc> References: <20091031061956.GA4561@vagner.bsd.loc> <20091031141651.GA7175@vagner.bsd.loc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Cc: Freebsd chat Mail List Subject: Re: FreeBSD vs Russian's laws X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 17:56:10 -0000 On 16:39 Sat 31 Oct , Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > 2009/10/31 Vagner : > > > Yes, i mean this is the law... In addition to the Federal Security Service > > checks and will deal with > > the Federal Service for Technical and Export Control (FSTEC). According > > to the normative legal documents No. ROSS RU.0001.01BI00 > > (http://www.fstec.ru/_srt/_prbser.htm) and the state registry of > > certified funds (http://www.fstec.ru/_doc/_reestr_sszi.xls) all used for > > processing and storage facilities should be certified. The site > > www.fstec.ru given a full list of legal documents on the subject. It is > > not sad it sounds - but it turns freebsd in russia will simply be > > banned:( > > Let me ask you again - *where specifically* does it actually say that > all systems that process data must be certified or compliant with a > specific standard? The Zakon is very vague on the exact criteria and > that is for a reason... The closest thing I could find to what you are > describing was on the FSTEC site in relation to *State* Secrets... > > Besides, if *all* systems that process personal data had to be > certified, you do realise that includes telephones, PBXes, PDAs and so > on?.. I think you're over-reacting... > > > Cheers, > > -- > Igor I'm afraid that is not the exact wording in the law would allow the inspectors to establish their own rules:( Also - if you look at paragraph 1.5 Regulation on certification of information sequrity requirements for information sequrity: "subject to mandatory certification means, including foreing-made, designed to protect information constituting state secrets, and *other information restricted*, as well as tools used in the management of environmentally hazardous facilities." In accordance with advice received from FSTEC - freebsd used for operations with the data containing the name and etc. is forbidden:( I'll be only too glad if my analisis of the situation is not true, but if it's still true, then from january 1, many disputes will be resolved criminal cases( -- Respectfully, Stanislav Putrya System administrator "RMK Kovsh" Ltd. IM: 328585847 mob. phone: +79525600664 email: root.vagner@gmail.com email: vagner_rider@bk.ru ---------------------------------------- ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign X - against HTML, vCards and / \ - proprietary attachments in e-mail