From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Apr 16 20:13:38 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EBE531D7 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D89831B9E for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from Alfreds-MacBook-Pro.local (unknown [50.204.88.51]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6CB231A3C23 for ; Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:13:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <534EE479.8010606@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 13:13:45 -0700 From: Alfred Perlstein Organization: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Synchronizing package defaults with Linuxes? References: <534EA16F.5010704@marino.st> <20140416160006.GA36751@sekishi.zefyris.com> In-Reply-To: <20140416160006.GA36751@sekishi.zefyris.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 20:13:39 -0000 On 4/16/14, 9:00 AM, Francois Tigeot wrote: > On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 05:27:43PM +0200, John Marino wrote: >> On 4/16/2014 15:53, Ivan Voras wrote: >>> What do you think of the idea of syncing versions in general, and this >>> example of PostgreSQL in particular? >> The example of PostgreSQL isn't really good because people have been >> asking for change in default for probably two years now. I have no clue >> as to why it hasn't changed but people do not want 9.0 as the default. >> >> BTW, DPorts has had postgresql 9.2 as the default for 15 months now, >> everything is fine, so there is no reason that I know of why FreeBSD >> isn't at least at 9.2. >> >> >> As for syncing with Linux -- I personally don't like the idea. The >> defaults should be picked deliberately, not because _____ Linux is at >> whatever version. > I tend to agree with John on both points. > > Changing default software versions to be in line with whatever the Linux > distribution of the week is doing is futile. He was talking about LTS (long term stability branches) not "flavor of the week". > > Changing default software versions to something reasonably stable and recent > makes sense. > > Concerning Postgres, 9.3 is the latest stable version, brings JSON support > to the table and doesn't need SYSV shared memory sysctl tuning anymore. > Making it the new default is the logical choice. > Except that the pressure on the vm is much worse than using sysvshm. -Alfred