From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jun 21 13:31:43 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57DCD106566B; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:31:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jhb@freebsd.org) Received: from cyrus.watson.org (cyrus.watson.org [65.122.17.42]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DCBE8FC15; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:31:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from bigwig.baldwin.cx (66.111.2.69.static.nyinternet.net [66.111.2.69]) by cyrus.watson.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D5E9C46B23; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from jhbbsd.localnet (unknown [209.249.190.124]) by bigwig.baldwin.cx (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 718038A01F; Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:31:42 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "Jung-uk Kim" Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:10:25 -0400 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (FreeBSD/8.2-CBSD-20110325; KDE/4.5.5; amd64; ; ) References: <201106081938.p58JcWuB044252@svn.freebsd.org> <20110618210815.W889@besplex.bde.org> <201106201941.03393.jkim@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <201106201941.03393.jkim@FreeBSD.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201106210910.25697.jhb@freebsd.org> X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.6 (bigwig.baldwin.cx); Tue, 21 Jun 2011 09:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Cc: svn-src-head@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, src-committers@freebsd.org, Bruce Evans Subject: Re: svn commit: r222866 - head/sys/x86/x86 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:31:43 -0000 On Monday, June 20, 2011 7:41:00 pm Jung-uk Kim wrote: > My questions to you: > > a) Why do we care TSC timecounter when it is not invariant where we > *know* it is unusable and set to negative quality? What if the user knows they will not enable CPU throttling so for them the TSC is safe? In that case, TSC is a more efficient timecounter and if the user constrains the system to make the TSC safe we should let them use it. -- John Baldwin