From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Jan 10 23:19:18 1996 Return-Path: owner-hackers Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) id XAA07055 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from time.cdrom.com (time.cdrom.com [192.216.222.226]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA07050 for ; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:19:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id XAA09329; Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:16:08 -0800 To: StevenR362@aol.com cc: roberto@hsc.fr.net, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HELP: Cyclades Drivers In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 10 Jan 1996 22:41:06 EST." <960110222103_112765475@emout06.mail.aol.com> Date: Wed, 10 Jan 1996 23:16:08 -0800 Message-ID: <9327.821344568@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org Precedence: bulk > This is a bit harsh. From my, perhaps faded, recollection it was more > along > these lines. Unfortunately, your recollection is a bit too faded. Or perhaps you simply weren't privy to some of the conversations that were flying around. It went more like this: " Brian: I have this new driver that I think works better than the existing one. FBSD: "Huh! Cool. However, looking at it, there appear to be some serious problems with it in a few areas. What are your plans?" Brian: "Well, those problems aren't really important to most of my users so I'm not going to do anything about them." FBSD: "But these are serious shortcomings.." Brian: "Sorry. Not interested." Bruce: "Hey, I've got the Werple driver basically re-written, and it works." FBSD: "Oh my. Hey, Brian - now we have two! What do you want to do?" Brian: "I don't care, I'm burnt out on the whole issue now." FBSD: [thinking to itself] "My! Brian doesn't seem to have a very high tolerance for dealing with the types of issues which surround volunteer projects like this one. What a shame.. Bruce? Let's have a look at your driver then!" > I also seem to recall a William_something_or_other? Who had a >replacement driver for sio who was also told to take a hike about a >year ago as well. It seems there's a little bit of NIH in the serial We're not suffering from HIH, we're simply not willing to bend over backwards to accomodate prima-donna hacker types who run yelling the minute there looks to be the slightest resistance to their ideas. Everybody experiences a certain resistance to change in this project, and I think a certain amount of that resistance is even healthy. No one is exempt from this, neither outsiders nor insiders, and it would mainly appear to be those outsiders who are unable to accept criticism of their code without taking it deeply personally that have the most trouble working with this project. Those who have been able to successfully separate ego and code are all still with us and contributing daily. Jordan