From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 17:40:22 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 447EF1065672 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:40:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) Received: from mail.familycareintl.org (static-64-61-120-78.isp.broadviewnet.net [64.61.120.78]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 022D48FC15 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:40:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jnatola@familycareintl.org) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:39:53 -0500 Message-ID: <3A85D7EF44E1C744BF6434691F5659E9015E4182@www.fcimail.org> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: desktop app/config Thread-Index: AcmSuHaVct8xsQ6hTYmdcNkvW9/B0QAAGOpw From: "Jean-Paul Natola" To: "Sean Cavanaugh" , Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: desktop app/config X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:40:22 -0000 What is the "terminology" that I would need to search in the handbook to = get a bsd machine to authenticate with AD I have Mac machines that = authenticate to our network- but that's easy to configure -----Original Message----- From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2000@hotmail.com]=20 Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:36 PM To: Jean-Paul Natola; jerrymc@msu.edu Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: RE: desktop app/config > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:19:09 -0500 > From: jnatola@familycareintl.org > To: millenia2000@hotmail.com; jerrymc@msu.edu > CC: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: desktop app/config >=20 > That's sounds like what I'm looking for, however, when you say login = with no > user or password- I'm not sure if I like that because our fileserver = is going > to have to authenticate them at some point as will access to the = printers so > somewhere somehow I need a login no? >=20 What i was refering to was having a basic user with no system authority = such as deleting files and whatnot on the local machine. dont want = inexperienced user screwing up a perfectly fine system. if you have a file/print server set up then you are correct and should = prob use a password for the user account. i was assuming local access only.=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Sean Cavanaugh [mailto:millenia2000@hotmail.com]=20 > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:17 PM > To: Jean-Paul Natola; jerrymc@msu.edu > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: desktop app/config >=20 >=20 > > Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 12:05:08 -0500 > > From: jnatola@familycareintl.org > > To: jerrymc@msu.edu > > CC: questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: RE: desktop app/config > >=20 > > I think we went off track a bit- I do know freebsd- my mail filter = is a > > FreeBSD with clam exim and sa- but I NEVER use the gui's - I want to setup > > some "recycled" machines with bsd and a gui that will be easy for a = user to > > grasp- I have mac users and pc users here- > >=20 > > But thanks for all the tips- I currently use ee for editing=20 >=20 >=20 > I think what you are looking for overall would prob be a baseline = install > with either Gnome or KDE installed. Personally I prefer Gnome but KDE = is more > MSWindows like in its interface. You can go as far as to skin either = of them > to look like MSWindows. >=20 > setup a basic user with no system control and no password for users to = log in > with and change /etc/ttys so that ttyv8 is turned on and set to GDM or = KDM > (depending on which you want to use). >=20 > Definitely configure what additional software you need installed per = your > needs. >=20 > -Sean >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jerry McAllister [mailto:jerrymc@msu.edu]=20 > > Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:00 PM > > To: Jean-Paul Natola > > Cc: questions@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: desktop app/config > >=20 > > On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 10:27:30AM -0500, Jean-Paul Natola wrote: > >=20 > > > Hi all, > > >=20 > > > I'm replacing some machines and want to setup some stations in the > library > > > running FreeBSD-=20 > > >=20 > > > What is the easiest for an XP user to get accustomed to and what = config > do > > I > > > need so that when the machine starts (power / boot) it will automatically > > > launch the desktop gui > >=20 > > The easiest way to get used to it is to just fully install the = latest > FreeBSD > > (that is 7.1 at the moment) RELEASE, update it to RELENG_7 or = RELENG_7_1 > > so it has the latest patches. Install Xorg for Xwindows so you will = have > > graphics. Then install a few handy ports from the /usr/ports tree. > > Some you will want are Firefox and Thunderbird and Openoffice, = although > > you may want to install Openoffice from a binary package rather than > > from ports. Openoffice is very big and building it can be daunting > > for a newbie. Some other good candidates might be Apache and Perl > > and maybe a couple of games for fun. > >=20 > > Then, just start using it. Learn to find things you need on the = system.=20 > > and configure the network securely. There is lots of documentation = in > > the FreeBSD Handbook and other places online. The more you do it, = the > > more they make sense. > >=20 > > One thing to learn is using the vi(1) text editor. There are many > > other editors, but for system management, vi is the omnipresent, > ubiquitious > > one. It is sometimes the only one available in times when bad things > > are happening. It feels rather clunky when you first start to use it > > but it quickly becomes second nature. The FreeBSD man page is pretty > > good on it. I have a web page that simplifies it a little at:=20 > >=20 > > http://z2.cl.msu.edu/~jerrymc/project/editvi/ > >=20 > > There are a number of books available that help learning FreeBSD. > >=20 > > "FreeBSD Unleashed" and "Absolute BSD" are a couple of them > > The FreeBSD Handbook which is online at the FreeBSD web site and > > is installed if you want it when FreeBSD is installed is quite good. > > The FreeBSD site also has other documents and links listed. > >=20 > > At first, it will seem a little strange. Generally FreeBSD is = command > > oriented, not pointy/clicky oriented. That is a much more powerful = way > > to administer a system, but it takes more initial learning. > >=20 > > Ask questions. People on the list have already heard all the common > > complaints and gripes that FreeBSD is not like MS-Win dozens of = times. > > The usual response is "Thank God" or something similar. Anyway, they > > are not interested in hearing whines again. But, if you have a real > > question about 'how to do' something or even 'why is it done this = way' > > and not just grousing, people on the list are usually very good = about > > giving answers. List people are very interested in helping people=20 > > learn, but not interested in people complaining.=20 > >=20 > > If it is a bug, post a pr. If it is a feature request, remember that = > > FreeBSD is created and maintained by volunteers - very smart ones - = but=20 > > they have limits on time and resources so your request may take a = very=20 > > long time to get attention. You may well learn how to do it yourself = > > and then submit it as an improvement before then. > >=20 > > Good luck and have fun. > >=20 > > ////jerry=20 > >=20 > > >=20 > > > thanx > > > _______________________________________________ > > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > >=20 > > _______________________________________________ > > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org"