From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Feb 20 16:58:35 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA21184 for hackers-outgoing; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:58:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from who.cdrom.com (who.cdrom.com [204.216.27.3]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA21138 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:58:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.96.120]) by who.cdrom.com (8.7.5/8.6.11) with ESMTP id QAA26110 for ; Thu, 20 Feb 1997 16:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from msmith@localhost) by genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au (8.8.5/8.7.3) id KAA22121; Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:51:53 +1030 (CST) From: Michael Smith Message-Id: <199702210021.KAA22121@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Windows95: what you don't know, you must reinvent In-Reply-To: <199702201736.KAA15486@phaeton.artisoft.com> from Terry Lambert at "Feb 20, 97 10:36:39 am" To: terry@lambert.org (Terry Lambert) Date: Fri, 21 Feb 1997 10:51:51 +1030 (CST) Cc: msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, terry@lambert.org, jamie@inna.net, toneil@visigenic.com, jfieber@indiana.edu, hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk Terry Lambert stands accused of saying: > > > > Er, yeah. You have ABI documentation that's vaguely accurate and > > legit? You are willing to fund this? (Or you know someone else who > > is?) > > > > And lastly, is your tongue turning black? (Name of the Rose) > > I caught your Umberto Eco reference... I'm not a total barbarian. ;-). ... but if you were, you'd have assumed I was accusing you of becoming a devil. The possibility is there, but it wasn't what I was getting at. > The ABI documentation is fairly public; there are a number of European > companies that have it; so does Sun, so does DEC. There are a *huge* > number of books that have it. Aha. And which book(s) should we trust? (cf. "vaguely accurate" above). > As to funding, are you asking if I'm willing to work on this? Well, > I'm willing to do the COM implementation, which is the underlying > technology for DirectX, ActiveX, etc., assuming that FreeBSD ever > switches to ELF. No, I meant that for all your output capacity, you're not going to be able to write all of this. To get it done, as you've previously observed, requires a funded organisation that will encourage people to write code that they might not have for mere fun. Ergo, funding. > Terry Lambert -- ]] Mike Smith, Software Engineer msmith@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] Genesis Software genesis@gsoft.com.au [[ ]] High-speed data acquisition and (GSM mobile) 0411-222-496 [[ ]] realtime instrument control. (ph) +61-8-8267-3493 [[ ]] Unix hardware collector. "Where are your PEZ?" The Tick [[