From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Tue Sep 8 20:53:42 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C9079CC1E4 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2015 20:53:42 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mx1.eichornenterprises.com (mx1.eichornenterprises.com [104.236.13.122]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mx1.eichornenterprises.com", Issuer "StartCom Class 1 Primary Intermediate Server CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16A921863 for ; Tue, 8 Sep 2015 20:53:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ike@michaeleichorn.com) Received: from mail.eichornenterprises.com (cpe-75-179-47-202.neo.res.rr.com [75.179.47.202]); by mx1.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTP id ca310c99; Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:53:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail.eichornenterprises.com (OpenSMTPD) with ESMTPSA id 5fb8c5d3; TLS version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO; Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:53:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <1441745722.12994.59.camel@michaeleichorn.com> Subject: Re: pkg does bad things after upgrade from 8.4 to 9.3 From: "Michael B. Eichorn" To: "Michael R. Wayne" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 16:55:22 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20150908175303.GP23144@manor.msen.com> References: <20150908175303.GP23144@manor.msen.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="sha-512"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature"; boundary="=-8lGO+bHLiLwV4Ec0v/Ez" X-Mailer: Evolution 3.16.5 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 Sep 2015 20:53:42 -0000 --=-8lGO+bHLiLwV4Ec0v/Ez Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, 2015-09-08 at 13:53 -0400, Michael R. Wayne wrote: > I brought this up on irc, did not get a helpful answer. >=20 > After upgrading a machine from 8.4 to 9.3, I went to upgrade=20 > ports/packages. Some need to be built from source as they=20 > use non-standard options but most should be installable directly > with pkg install. >=20 > Note that both pkg and pkg-devel exhibit the same problem. >=20 > Some install just fine. Others do NASTY things.=20 >=20 > Here, I show that zip installs properly. But bash wants to=20 > delete TOTALLY UNRELATED things (why would bash want to delete > mutt and apache?) > http://www.wayne47.com/fbsd_issue.html At a glance, bash has a library dependency to gettext-runtime which is in turn a library dependecy of 2000+ ports. You hit dependency hell. Gettext is like libc or perl, touch it any everything needs updated. >=20 > I then did a > pkg update -F > which fetched the world, then wanted to reinstall everything (to > which I said no) and the problem continues: > http://www.wayne47.com/fbsd3.html But you must reinstall everything. You upgraded your ABI going 8->9 so everything needs rebuilt/reinstalled. See next. >=20 > It looks like, in part, pkg can not determine what files are installed: > http://www.wayne47.com/fbsdbug.html Not sure about this one, but you are pretty far off the reservation after not doing a '# pkg-static upgrade -f' or '# portmaster -af' as per FreeBSD Handbook 23.2.3.3 >=20 > Is there some way I can force pkg to install individual packages and > not > touch the unrelated things? This behaviour seems very flawed to me but > the irc chat suggests I'm missing something. There is pkg-lock(8) but dont do it. You really need to upgrade it all for a major version change. My guess is that everything works fine if you follow the handbook/manual. Mixing ports and packages is hard to do at present, but it is being actively worked on. Poudriere is probably the best solution for mixing them at present. >=20 > Guidance on how to proceed would be appreciated. Note, again, that > I can not simply pkg update all ports as some must be built from > source. Multiple ways to do this, at least the following occur to me (in no particular order): 1) poudriere. If you have another machine/VPS you can build the ports you modify as packages and overlay it on top of the freebsd repo (least work on the target system). 2) uninstall the custom ports, upgrade with pkg, rebuild custom ports (most human work) 3) use portmaster or your port management software of choice and rebuild all of the ports from source, eg '# portmaster -af'. (most machine work, least human work) I am sure others with more experiance than myself may have other/better alternatives. I am rather newer at this than most on the list so consider this response to be from an informed non-expert user, rather than an truely authoritative answer. 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